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Cash Flow Statement – Part 2

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  • August 12, 2015 at 1:25 pm #266908
    thomasrebecca
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    How do I treat the following?

    1) During 2012 an equity investment held through the profit and loss account was sold for £3.5 million. The investment was acquired two years later for £1 million.

    2) On the 30 December 2012 the company paid £1 million to acquire investments. The company intends to classify half of them (£500,000) as through profit and loss account. The other half (£500,000) will be accounted for as “available-for-sale”. At 31 December 2012, the value of the investments treated as through the profit and loss account increased to £750,000 and that of investments available for sale decreased to £400,000. The company has not made any entries in its books concerning these investments.

    The income statement that I have here is “for the year ended 31 December 2012”, however, in the notes it says that “The company has not made any entries in its books concerning these investments”, do I ignore Note 2, or not? If not, how do I account for them and where in the cash flow statement?

    On the B.S. (again, as at 31 December 2012) the relevant part is:
    – Equity investments: 4,500 (2012); 8,000 (2011)

    Please, please help 🙂

    August 12, 2015 at 1:32 pm #266910
    thomasrebecca
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    The investment was acquired two years earlier (not later) for £1 million, sorry 🙂

    August 12, 2015 at 1:44 pm #266914
    MikeLittle
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    “The company has not made any entries in its books concerning these investments”

    It’s not clear whether “these investments” includes the first ones mentioned in point 1

    If the question is looking for you to put through all the double entry for these two points, then that’s what you must do. However, I find it inconceivable that a company dealing in $millions has not recorded the receipt of $3.5 million Cash!

    On the sale of point 1 investments, the double entry SHOULD have been:

    Dr Cash 3.5
    Cr Investment 1.0
    Cr Profit on disposal 2.5

    Entries for a statement of cash flows will be a negative flow of 2.5 in arriving at cash from operating activities, a positive flow of 3.5 cash flow from investing activities

    Point 2 – I find it equally inconceivable that an investment of $500,000 on 20 december should have risen by $250,000 in 11 days! Or another one has decreased by $100, 000 in the same period! However, if that’s what the question says, that’s what we must work on

    Record the double entry first:

    Dr Investments $1 million
    Cr Cash $1 million

    Incidentally, “available for sale” is no longer an available choice of categorisation under IFRS 9

    At the end of the year, put in the double entry:

    Dr Investments $250,000
    Cr Profit or Loss $250,000, and

    Dr Profit or Loss $100,000
    Cr Investments $100,000

    Now think about the statement of cash flows

    Deduct the non-cash profit as a negative flow in arriving at the figure for Operating Activities of $250,000 and add back the non-cash loss of $100,000

    Show in Investing Activities the cash outflow of $1 million

    Now we face another problem!

    The values that you have given ($4,500 2012 and $8,000 2011) don’t include certainly the activities from point 2 and may not include the activities from point 1 – I don’t know

    If neither of these points has so far been entered, then the company has apparently sold investments which had cost in the past $3,500,000. But I have no idea how much was the proceeds from that sale so I can help you no further!

    OK?

    August 12, 2015 at 2:21 pm #266922
    thomasrebecca
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    The resulting difference can’t it be a loss on fair value for the OTHER equity investments, I mean, what I am asking is:

    An equity investment asset can go up with:

    – purchases of new equity investments
    – gains on fair value adjustments

    and

    It can go down with:

    – disposals of equity investments
    – losses on fair value adjustments

    right?

    I added the difference (assuming all those entries were accounted for), which was 8,000 (beginning balance)-1000 (disposal) + 1,000 (purchase) + 250 (increase on FV) – 100 (decrease in FV) + x = 4500 (ending balance) => x = – 3,650 to the operating cash flow and it worked, it balanced :-S

    August 12, 2015 at 2:36 pm #266929
    MikeLittle
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    Well there you go.

    Yes it could be a loss on other investments held through profit or loss and, if so, that loss needs to be added back to arrive at cash flow from operating activities

    OK?

    August 12, 2015 at 2:41 pm #266931
    thomasrebecca
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    Great! Many thanks, Mike!! Just one more thing I want to clarify – about that loss on the available-for-sale equity investments – we added it back to arrive at cash flow from operating activities, but I am confused about is: doesn’t a fair value change in available-for-sale equity investment go in the Equity section (Other Comprehensive Income) and not the P&L? If so, it means that it was not included when arriving at the net profit on P&L, therefore, why do we add it back?

    I thought that only fair value adjustments for investments through profit and loss are included when arriving at the net profit on I.S. …

    August 12, 2015 at 4:22 pm #266945
    MikeLittle
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    Hmmm. But I’ve already told you that the classification of “available for sale investments” is no longer accepted! If you’re trying an old example – pre IFRS 9 – then yes, you’re correct.

    But strange though the idea may be, I’m trying to stay up-to-date 🙂

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