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BPP : OTQ Allowing for tax & inflation Q.113-115

Forums › Ask ACCA Tutor Forums › Ask the Tutor ACCA FM Exams › BPP : OTQ Allowing for tax & inflation Q.113-115

  • This topic has 11 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 1 year ago by John Moffat.
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  • May 17, 2023 at 7:46 am #684488
    Asif110
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    Greetings sir.

    A) In q 113 and 114 , we were asked for the present value but the answer page included the T0 while doing the total of present value thus actually calculating the npv instead, as per my understanding.
    Why is that ?

    B) In Q115 we were asked the NET present value. But I dont understand: Why in Q113 and q114 we returned the working capital at their last years respectively after they were insterted in T0, whereas the same type of question was repeated this time and the working capital was inserted at T0, but this time we in our calculations to find NPV did not return the WORKING CAPITAL investment back to the company after the 1 yr project was over. If working capital was included in T0 it should have been returned and this positive cash flow should have appeared in T1 along with the income and expenses.

    Please remove the confusions, our knowledgeable esteemed sir.

    May 17, 2023 at 3:54 pm #684512
    John Moffat
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    Sorry, but I am waiting for a new edition of the Kit to arrive from BPP.

    If you type out the first line of each of the questions then I will see if they are in my edition.

    May 18, 2023 at 6:13 am #684549
    Asif110
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    It’s edition Sept 2022 – jun 2023.

    113) A project has the following cash inflows

    114) AW Co needs to have $100,000 working capital…

    115) NCW Co is considering investing $10,000 immediately…

    May 18, 2023 at 8:11 am #684573
    John Moffat
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    113 The answer is not calculating the NPV because it is only asking for the PV of the working capital flows. The working capital flows include an outflow at time 0. (For the NPV we would need to know all of the flows relating to the project).

    114 Same as my reply to 113.

    115 There is no mention of any working capital requirement in this question. The $10,000 is the initial cost of the investment which is nothing to do with working capital.

    May 18, 2023 at 2:30 pm #684597
    Asif110
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    I see…

    113) So if working capital outflow begins at T0 it won’t be considered NPV calculation, only unless a capital investment is made at T0.

    115) $10,000 was not working capital but capital investment.

    May 18, 2023 at 4:26 pm #684610
    John Moffat
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    The NPV is calculating the net present value of all flows relating to the investment.

    I know that $10,000 is not working capital, which is what I wrote in my previous reply.

    Had you watched all of my free lectures before attempting these questions?

    May 19, 2023 at 9:28 am #684651
    Asif110
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    I was just rehearsing for you to check my summary whether I understood you
    correctly ?

    You said:
    113 The answer is not calculating the NPV because it is only asking for the PV of the working capital flows. The working capital flows include an outflow at time 0. (For the NPV we would need to know all of the flows relating to the project).

    My question is – if the working capital flow include an outflow at time 0 – won’t that be considered the NPV because all of the flows relating to the project are now being considered- meaning time 0’s negative content as well.

    May 19, 2023 at 4:13 pm #684673
    John Moffat
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    All inflows and outflows (including working capital) are relevant if asked to calculate the NPV of an investment.

    Again, have you watched all of my lectures, because this is all made very clear in the lectures?

    May 21, 2023 at 7:33 am #684759
    Asif110
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    Ok I misunderstood. I thought that if the entire question only mentions working capital – then if t0 is involved having working capital outflow – it will be considered npv calculation not pv calculation. Why ? Because question showed a world only containing working capital. And no other outflow like investment etc.

    But you are teaching if I am not misunderstanding – that even if the question mentions working capital and no other details like investment, npv can only be calculated if those other details are present, it is a necessity for npv. Otherwise we consider question is focused on pv even if t0 containing a working capital outflow (ie negative outflow).

    May 21, 2023 at 11:29 am #684771
    John Moffat
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    The net present value of any investment calculates the present value of all of the flows that result from making the investment.

    In arriving at the NPV we are taking the PV of all of the flows involved. If you question simply asks for the PV of certain of the flows then this is not the NPV of the whole investment.

    May 22, 2023 at 7:43 am #684796
    Asif110
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    Thankyou very much.

    May 22, 2023 at 3:52 pm #684821
    John Moffat
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    You are welcome.

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