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BPP KIT question 17 – Joan co (factor)

Forums › Ask ACCA Tutor Forums › Ask the Tutor ACCA FM Exams › BPP KIT question 17 – Joan co (factor)

  • This topic has 13 replies, 4 voices, and was last updated 7 years ago by John Moffat.
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  • May 23, 2015 at 3:24 pm #248180
    Dushyan
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    only 1 problem im facing with this
    the interest on advancement
    I took 9% as it says 1% above the current overdraft rate (8%)

    but bpp did “1% * 8%”

    Explain me John !

    May 24, 2015 at 5:30 am #248259
    Dushyan
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    got it
    80% is % of advancement
    and 1% is the factor interest
    but why he said “above the overdraft rate” ?
    is this phrase a distractor? and why?

    May 24, 2015 at 5:32 am #248260
    Dushyan
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    Also,
    BPP question 30 KXP Co (receivable discount)

    it says the remaining will not change their behavior (so remaining 20%)
    but what is the days to multiply it with?
    I’m confused with this bit of the question
    otherwise all fine!

    May 24, 2015 at 10:42 am #248347
    John Moffat
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    Your first question:

    The factor will charge 9%.
    BPP sets out their answer in a different way to the way I do it (and I find their way more confusing!). However doing it the way I do will give exactly the same net benefit or cost (i.e. the difference between the costs and the benefit).

    May 24, 2015 at 10:45 am #248350
    John Moffat
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    Your second question:

    There is a little trick here 🙂

    Although it says that currently all sales are on 30 days credit, it does not mean that people actually pay in 30 days. Since the current receivables are 2,466, it means that they are currently taking 2,466/15,000 x 365 = 60 days to pay (and so with the new policy, 20% will still take 60 days to pay).

    May 24, 2015 at 12:02 pm #248393
    Dushyan
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    Thank you very much John 😉

    May 24, 2015 at 2:33 pm #248424
    Dushyan
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    John getting different answers for Joan co 🙁
    their net benefit is way smaller
    they got $ 11,900
    and I got $ 158,320

    I think they made a mistake by taking 0.01 as interest

    May 24, 2015 at 4:26 pm #248458
    Ashwin
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    sir im confused too
    explain how u calculate the interest on advancement on this question
    I’m getting different answer at the end

    May 24, 2015 at 6:58 pm #248584
    John Moffat
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    If you did it the way I do it in the lectures (which I find more sensible) then:

    The current receivables are 3,800.
    The new receivables are 70% x 3800 (because of the 30% saving) x 20% (because 80% comes in advance from the factor) = 532
    So the interest saving is 8% x (3800 – 532) = 261.

    The interest payable to the factor = 9% x 80% x 70% x 3800 = 191

    So the net interest saving is 261 – 191 = 70.

    The way that BPP has done it, the net interest saving is 91 – 21 = 70.

    All the other costs/savings are the same anyway, so the overall effect is the same.

    (It is a very poorly worded question).

    May 24, 2015 at 7:46 pm #248610
    Ashwin
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    thanks 😀

    May 25, 2015 at 5:50 am #248730
    Dushyan
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    thank u sir

    one last question on receivable management –
    can we get numbers on invoice discounting? or is it just talking bits?

    May 25, 2015 at 7:58 am #248762
    John Moffat
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    Numbers would be very unlikely. It will be just being able to explain what it is.

    November 11, 2017 at 8:06 pm #415299
    frantisek
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    Hi,

    can you please explain why the book says that finance cost saving is 1,140 x 8%? It is unclear to me why it does not take into account receivable days ((3,800/15,600)x365). In my opinion the company only draws overdraft for the time receivables are outstanding and they are not outstanding entire 365 days, but 88,9 days, so the cost saving should be approx. 4 times lower.

    Thank you.

    November 12, 2017 at 11:00 am #415381
    John Moffat
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    Certainly, each individual receivable is only outstanding for 88.9 days. However sales are being made throughout the year and every sale results in receivables outstanding for that period.

    Have you watched my free lectures on the management of receivables? If not then I do suggest that you do – the lectures are a complete free course for Paper F9 and cover everything needed to be able to pass the exam well.

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