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Beta of debt

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  • This topic has 18 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 10 years ago by John Moffat.
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  • June 6, 2015 at 7:26 am #254313
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    Dear Mr Moffat,

    On the exam they asked us to analyze the following statement:

    Assuming the beta of debt to be zero understates financial risk during re-gearing, or smth like this.

    I marked this one as wrong, because if i am not mistaken, we use beta of debt in calculation of asset beta, we use asset beta during ungearing, and asset beta represents business risk, not financial risk, am i right?

    Thanks!

    June 6, 2015 at 7:44 am #254319
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    i think it understates financial risk during ungearing, but not during gearing back, as the exam stated

    June 6, 2015 at 9:43 am #254417
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    It is difficult for me without seeing the exact question.

    However when re-gearing (to calculate the equity beta), then it means using the asset beta formula ‘backwards’.

    So the equity beta = (((Ve + Vd(1-T)) / Ve) x asset beta) – (Vd(1-T) x debt beta)

    By assuming the debt beta is zero, we end up with a higher equity beta then we would otherwise.
    So I would agree with you – assuming it to be zero overstates the financial risk.

    June 6, 2015 at 9:49 am #254425
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    Thank You, dear Mr Moffat! Thank You very much. The last points I would like to clarify, are:

    A) whether market segmentation explains kinks in yield curves
    B) money market deposits are short term loans between organizations such as banks – is this right?
    C) factoring improves efficiency of receivables management in the company?
    D) borrowers buy futures expecting interest rate increase and then sell them – is this one right?
    E) one statement claimed that expected values are calculated for projects with several outcomes that occur ONCE – is this right?

    These were the most difficult ones. Thank You in advance

    June 6, 2015 at 4:15 pm #254537
    John Moffat
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    A) Yes – it is one of the possible reasons (see the Lecture Notes

    B) They are short-term and are organisations such as banks (but not restricted to being between banks)

    C) Yes (hopefully 🙂 )

    D) No – they sell futures if they expect interest rates to rise (and buy them back later)

    E) This is a difficult one. They can be calculated whether the outcomes occur once or are repeated. As far as projects are concerned, certainly it is usually when the outcome only occurs once.

    June 6, 2015 at 4:48 pm #254553
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    Thank You very much! On the last one, i just thought that expected values do not occur once, they occur over several times, thats ehy i marked it wrong :/

    June 6, 2015 at 4:49 pm #254554
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    I think they tried to catch on the wording

    June 7, 2015 at 7:23 am #254657
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    True 🙂

    June 7, 2015 at 8:57 am #254683
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    Mr Moffat, so there is a chance of my choice being true? I just remembered this from F5, that expected values for projects with several outcomes do not occur once, they occur over many times.

    June 7, 2015 at 10:53 am #254727
    John Moffat
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    I can’t really answer without seeing the exact question.
    Usually expected values are used for one-off projects.

    June 7, 2015 at 12:09 pm #254757
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    If they used for one-off projects, they never actually occur, that was my logic though 🙂 btw, Sir, we saying re-gearing we mean gearing equity beta, am I right? The point stated: Assuming beta of debt to be zero understates financial risk during gearing equity beta

    June 7, 2015 at 12:15 pm #254759
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    Do share options always value good performance?

    Sorry for loading You, Sir, just feel really nervous about the exam, especially when they wont publish mcqs!

    June 7, 2015 at 4:09 pm #254823
    John Moffat
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    In answer to your first post:

    For one-off projects, it is true – the expected value will not actually occur.

    Re-gearing a beta means calculating the equity beta from the asset beta for a particular level of gearing.

    June 7, 2015 at 4:11 pm #254824
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    In answer to your second question:

    Not necessarily – it depends on the scheme for awarding share options, and how ‘good performance’ is defined.

    However, giving share options to directors/employees certainly will encourage them to work towards improving the market value of the shares, which is a primary goal for any business.

    June 7, 2015 at 4:31 pm #254832
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    Dear Mr Moffat, so, to conclude, if they say that assuming beta of debt to be zero understates financial risk during gearing equity beta, then its false?

    June 7, 2015 at 6:13 pm #254868
    John Moffat
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    That is what I think 🙂

    June 7, 2015 at 7:01 pm #254906
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    Thank You sir! If You think so, then its definitely the case 🙂

    June 7, 2015 at 7:05 pm #254908
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    How many marks would I lose if the question asked to calculate total market value using various models, but i calculated (correctly) market value per share instead?

    June 8, 2015 at 6:25 am #255020
    John Moffat
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    I have no idea – I am not the marker and obviously I can not see exactly what you wrote.

    From what you say, I doubt you would lose more than one mark.

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