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Bank Reconciliation…explain your answer

Forums › ACCA Forums › ACCA FA Financial Accounting Forums › Bank Reconciliation…explain your answer

  • This topic has 17 replies, 8 voices, and was last updated 1 year ago by John Moffat.
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  • May 7, 2012 at 9:52 pm #52450
    queeenshana
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    The following information relates to bank reconciliation.

    (i) The bank balance in the cashbook before taking items below into account was $8,970 overdrawn.

    (ii) Bank charges of $550 n the bank statement have not been entered in he cashbook.

    (iii) Cheque payments totalling $3,275 have been entered in the cashbook but have not been presented for payment.

    (iv) The bank has credited the account in error with $425 which belongs to another customer.

    (v) Cheques totalling $5,380 have been correctly entered on the debit side of the cashbook but have not been paid in at the bank.

    What was the balance as shown by the bank statement before taking the items above into account?

    A. $8,970 overdrawn
    B. $11,200 overdrawn
    C.$12,050 overdrawn
    D.$17,750 overdrawn

    May 8, 2012 at 4:29 am #96988
    Sangria9
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    (i) ($8,970) – balance, overdrawn
    (ii) ($550) – bank will show these charges
    (iii) $3,275 – bank doesn’t know about these outflows
    (iv) $425 – bank will show this balance on our account by error
    (v) ($5,380) – bank doesn’tknow about these inflows

    Bank will show next balance: -8,970 – 550 + 3,275 + 425 – 5,380 = – 11,200.
    Answer is B.

    May 8, 2012 at 7:50 pm #96989
    John Moffat
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    Well done 🙂

    June 15, 2012 at 6:12 pm #96990
    mohammadbangash
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    Sangria really appreciate ur work

    January 21, 2014 at 12:36 pm #154256
    mansoor
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    the question states that the overdrawn bank balance of 8970 is BEFORE taking the items below into account.
    and the question asks to give the bank balance BEFORE the items are taken into account.

    so.. it shd be the same!

    where am going wrong in my understanding

    January 21, 2014 at 6:29 pm #154276
    gingergirl
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    :-))))))

    That’s BRILLIANT!!!!!

    Are you sure that you have replicated the question correctly?

    January 21, 2014 at 6:35 pm #154278
    mansoor
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    i didnt post the question..just reading it as it has been posted

    January 22, 2014 at 8:10 am #154289
    John Moffat
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    The question refers to the bank balance in the CASH BOOK and the bank balance on the BANK STATEMENT..

    The two will not be the same because of un presented cheques etc.. – that is the whole point of bank reconciliations. To be able to explain the reasons that they are different.

    January 22, 2014 at 8:17 am #154290
    mansoor
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    Then what does the line :What was the balance as shown by the bank statement before taking the items above into account?” mean?

    the phrase ‘before taking the items above into account’

    maybe that is what is throwing me off

    January 22, 2014 at 9:26 am #154295
    John Moffat
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    You will know from studying bank reconciliations, that the balance on the bank statement will not be the same as the balance in the cash account, for two reasons – one is mistakes in the cash account, and the other is unprecedented cheques and lodgements not yet appearing on the bank statement.

    So……obviously we first need to correct mistakes in the cash account to get the correct cash account balance.

    This still will not agree with the bank statement (because of the unpresented cheques and the deposits which have not year appeared) – however if we adjust for these we should be able to reconcile/agree the bank statement with the cash account.

    What this question is asking for is to calculate what the bank statement balance is at the moment (i.e. before adjusting for the cheques and deposits that have not yet appeared).

    Since we know what we should end up with (i.e. the same figure as the corrected balance on the cash account) we need to work backwards to calculate what the bank statement balance currently is.

    January 22, 2014 at 9:31 am #154296
    mansoor
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    now ii get it!!!!!

    thank you sir!!!!

    January 22, 2014 at 9:32 am #154297
    John Moffat
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    Great 🙂

    January 22, 2014 at 9:47 am #154299
    gingergirl
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    Is an unprecedented cheque different from an unpresented cheque or are they the same thing?

    January 22, 2014 at 9:52 am #154300
    John Moffat
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    Well spotted Giggles!

    The auto spell checker changed my ‘unpresented’ to ‘unprecedented’ and I didn’t notice!! There is no such thing as an unprecedented cheque.

    March 2, 2022 at 3:24 pm #649654
    ov221
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    The following information relates to a business’s
    bank balance at 30 November 20X7:
    $
    Debit balance in cash book 25,050
    Cheques not yet presented at bank 8,612
    Deposits not yet cleared at bank 11,665
    Cheques paid to suppliers on 29 November
    not yet recorded in the cash book
    2,157
    Cheque received on 27 November recorded
    twice in the cash book
    620
    Cheque received on 1 December 20X7 1,019
    What is the correct bank balance to be included in the
    financial statements at 30 November 20X7?
    A) 22,275$
    B) 22,273$
    C) 23,500$
    D) 21,569$

    Hello.. can smb explain this question pls?

    March 2, 2022 at 7:00 pm #649680
    John Moffat
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    Have you watched my free lectures on bank reconciliations? Everything in this question is explained in the lectures!!

    October 13, 2022 at 9:54 am #668507
    minhnguyen@abc
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    (iv) The bank has credited the account in error with $425 which belongs to another customer is the error of cash account or bank statement sir ?

    May 28, 2023 at 6:54 pm #685257
    John Moffat
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    If the bank had made the error (which is what the question says) then the mistake is on the bank statement, not in the cash account.

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