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assuming management responsibility

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  • This topic has 3 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 3 years ago by Kim Smith.
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  • November 29, 2021 at 12:17 pm #641998
    Noah098
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    ma’am how does management threat arise when external auditor provides internal audit services also?

    from what I remember audit committee assesses the need for internal audit department (IAD) and IAD is even responsible for reporting to audit committee, so then how exactly does a threat to assuming management responsibility arise when external auditor is proving internal audit services?

    November 29, 2021 at 1:09 pm #642002
    Kim Smith
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    “Management threat” is not a separate category (see page 24 of the notes) – nor is it a term used in the Code.

    There is a general prohibition in the Code that an audit firm should not assume a management responsibility for an audit client.

    This is a para from the Code re the provision of internal audit services:

    “605.4 A1 Paragraph R600.7 precludes a firm or a network firm from assuming
    a management responsibility. Performing a significant part of the
    client’s internal audit activities increases the possibility that firm or
    network firm personnel providing internal audit services will assume a
    management responsibility.”

    605.4 A2 Examples of internal audit services that involve assuming management
    responsibilities include:
    ?? Setting internal audit policies or the strategic direction of
    internal audit activities.
    ?? Directing and taking responsibility for the actions of the entity’s
    internal audit employees.
    ?? Deciding which recommendations resulting from internal audit
    activities to implement.
    ?? Reporting the results of the internal audit activities to those
    charged with governance on behalf of management.
    ?? Performing procedures that form part of the internal control,
    such as reviewing and approving changes to employee data
    access privileges.
    ?? Taking responsibility for designing, implementing, monitoring
    and maintaining internal control.
    ?? Performing outsourced internal audit services, comprising all
    or a substantial portion of the internal audit function, where the
    firm or network firm is responsible for determining the scope of
    the internal audit work; and might have responsibility for one or
    more of the matters noted above.

    December 3, 2021 at 12:37 pm #642387
    Noah098
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    ma’am from my understanding there are two possible responses in case of assuming management responsibility:

    LISTED(any non-audit work)

    The threats created would be so significant that no safeguards can be used to reduce it to an acceptable level.

    UNLISTED CLIENT(any non-audit work)

    -mgt accepts its responsibility for taking any actions based on recommendations from auditor
    -mgt accepts its responsibility for oversight of services performed by auditor and monitoring of any reports produced.

    Can you please confirm them?

    December 3, 2021 at 12:55 pm #642389
    Kim Smith
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    Assuming management responsibilities is one of the few things that is a “no no”. The relevant section (R600.7) has the heading “Prohibition on Assuming Management Responsibilities” and applies to ALL audit clients.

    What you suggest are not safeguards as defined in the Code (they are not actions taken by the AUDITOR) – they are means to avoid assuming management responsibilities.

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