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Associate sell to Parent Co.

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  • This topic has 7 replies, 3 voices, and was last updated 10 years ago by MikeLittle.
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  • June 3, 2014 at 10:07 pm #173467
    pakistan098
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    Hi Mike… My last Question in this session..
    what will be the treatment in CSFP and P or L if parent inventory include goods supplied by associate.

    June 4, 2014 at 7:12 am #173527
    MikeLittle
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    Put the whole of the pup through the associate.

    Then, in working W3, take our share of the associate’s adjusted profits and, in working W5, the investment in associate line “our share of associate post acquisition retained” is also affected.

    In debits and credits, Dr retained earnings with our share of the pup, Credit investment in associate

    Ok?

    May 9, 2015 at 1:28 pm #244942
    Robert
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    Hi mike, should the inventory be reduced by the amount of profit though?

    May 9, 2015 at 3:20 pm #244958
    MikeLittle
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    It’s an irrelevance! The Associate’s profit after tax will be reduced by any pup.

    Working W5a, Investment in Associate, is calculated as:

    Cost of investment
    + Share of post acq retained (as adjusted for the pup)
    – Any impairments

    Working W5b, Interest in Associate’s results for the year is calculated as:

    Our percentage share of Associate’s profit after tax (as adjusted for the pup!)

    Ok?

    May 9, 2015 at 3:33 pm #244964
    Robert
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    Is it the same treatment regardless of whether P sells to A or A sells to P?

    I can’t see how in the case where A sells to P then why isn’t P’s inventory overstated with profit element?

    May 9, 2015 at 5:11 pm #244980
    MikeLittle
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    There’s a strange thing! When parent sells to SUBSIDIARY, it’s the subsidiary’s inventory that is overvalued but the pup adjustment goes through the parent’s retained earnings, not the subsidiary’s.

    We really are not interested in whose inventory is overvalued because
    (a + b – c) is the same as (a – c + b)

    Technically when parent sells to associate, the adjustment should be to remove just the group’s share of the pup from the parent retained earnings

    But the result is the same (ie the sofp still balances) when you make the full pup adjustment through the associate

    And that’s the easier way.

    There are differences in the figures for retained earnings and for investment in associate but, as I said, the sofp still balances

    Ok?

    May 9, 2015 at 5:57 pm #244995
    Robert
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    Thank you mike. I think my problem is getting tied down in detail rather than just learning the rules and applying them.

    Thanks

    May 9, 2015 at 6:10 pm #244999
    MikeLittle
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    Yes, ok, but it’s easier to learn the rules if you can understand what’s happening 🙂

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