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ASOP Co dec 2009

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  • This topic has 17 replies, 5 voices, and was last updated 7 years ago by John Moffat.
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  • May 12, 2014 at 5:41 pm #168521
    nari
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    In calculating the npv of purchasing the new technology,there is a tax deduction . I don’t understand 1-why its calculated on the licence fee and 2-why its shown as a positive value, i.e. a deduction. I thought tax relief was only for leases.

    May 12, 2014 at 6:33 pm #168539
    John Moffat
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    Surely, any expenditure will reduce the taxable profit of the company and therefore will save them tax? This is Paper F6.

    OK – lease payments will reduce the taxable profit and save tax, but so too will any expenditure.

    May 13, 2014 at 10:38 pm #168734
    aishaasad
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    hello Sir ,
    regarding part a why did we not use WACC for discounting?

    May 14, 2014 at 5:05 am #168746
    John Moffat
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    Because we are asked whether it is cheaper to lease or to buy.

    May 14, 2014 at 5:11 am #168747
    aishaasad
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    dont get it

    May 14, 2014 at 5:27 am #168748
    John Moffat
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    Have you watched the lecture on this (or been through it in your Study Text)?

    It is the standard rule for lease and buy that to decide which is cheaper of the two we discount at the after tax cost of borrowing.

    May 14, 2014 at 5:38 am #168749
    aishaasad
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    sorry forgotten just had quick review of topic 4 in chap 9
    thank you soo much for answering and reminding

    May 14, 2014 at 7:36 pm #168816
    John Moffat
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    No problem! (We only use WACC when we are appraising projects – choosing between leasing and buying is not appraising a project).

    May 19, 2014 at 3:06 pm #169500
    nari
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    Hello, I don’t understand why in part A, a discount factor of 6% (which is after tax) is used but in part B , a discount factor of 11% is used

    May 19, 2014 at 3:33 pm #169506
    John Moffat
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    Its really what I was saying in my previous answer.

    In part (a) we are not appraising a project – we are simply seeing whether or not leasing is cheaper than borrowing and buying. For this we discount at the cost of borrowing (after tax).

    In part (b) we are appraising the project and as usual when appraising projects, we discount at the WACC.

    (It will be worthwhile you watching my free lecture on this. Although because it came up in last times exam, it does mean that it is less likely this time.)

    May 19, 2014 at 4:07 pm #169517
    nari
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    Thanks Mr Moffat

    May 19, 2014 at 4:14 pm #169519
    John Moffat
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    You are welcome 🙂

    June 3, 2014 at 11:07 am #173192
    sheen
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    Hi Sir,

    I dont understand that in part a, its mentioned “financing cash flows only”. What is the difference? Not considering operating cost? If this is the case then why are we considering license fee?

    And in part b , its taking account of operating cost where as in part (a) its not?

    June 3, 2014 at 3:10 pm #173242
    John Moffat
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    In part (a) you are deciding on the cheapest way of getting the machine – lease or buy.

    In part (b) you are deciding whether or not the machine is worth having at all.

    So, for part (a) you are simply comparing the flows that will occur if we lease, with those that will occur if we buy. There is no point in bringing in the operating costs etc because they will occur whichever we choose.

    In part (b) when we are deciding whether or not to invest in the machine at all, we need to bring in all the operating flows as usual.

    (It might be worthwhile watching my free lecture on this)

    June 3, 2014 at 4:57 pm #173283
    sheen
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    Thank you Sir 🙂

    June 3, 2014 at 6:49 pm #173386
    John Moffat
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    You are welcome 🙂

    August 19, 2017 at 8:57 am #402419
    cfelicepace
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    Hi

    I’ve watched this lecture and it’s great. One question though:

    Why aren’t interest payments included as part of the evaluation of the buying decision? Wouldn’t this be a cost of purchasing the machine too?

    Thank you for your time 🙂

    August 19, 2017 at 9:53 am #402441
    John Moffat
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    The whole reason for discounting is to account for the interest. Including interest in the cash flows would be accounting for it twice 🙂

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