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APV and ke

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  • This topic has 8 replies, 5 voices, and was last updated 12 years ago by John Moffat.
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  • November 19, 2012 at 3:28 pm #55483
    sukaina1786
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    1) in APV when calculating PV of tax shield on debt, when to use which rate for discounting? risk free rate or kd????

    2) Is the kei (cost of equity of ungeared company from given formula) same as ke calculated through CAPM using asset Beta ??? when to use which one?

    November 19, 2012 at 4:12 pm #107888
    dazhong0703
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    1) both can, Rf easier
    2) when doing NPV, use Be, then Ke; when doing APV, use Ba (or Bu), then Keu; when doing risk adjusted WACC, degear, regear, CAPM, WACC!

    November 19, 2012 at 6:48 pm #107889
    John Moffat
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    Agreed.

    Except that for (1), there is debate over whether to discount at the risk free rate or kd. In theory they would both be the same, but in practice (and in exams) they are not the same because debt is never completely risk free.

    The answer will be different depending on which rate you use for discounting, and the examiner allows both answers (in some answers the examiner himself uses the risk free rate, and in others he has used Kd).

    I personally think that discounting at Kd is better because the risk attaching to the tax shield is the same as the risk attaching to the debt interest itself.

    However, as I have written, the examiner allows either.

    November 19, 2012 at 9:02 pm #107890
    sukaina1786
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    thanks a lot Sir john and dazhong. one more thing: what about PV of tax shield on SUBSIDISED LOAN…..is it compulsory to discount it on Rf rate, since its offered by govt, or is this also upto our choice…..?

    November 20, 2012 at 6:12 am #107891
    AQ!
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    Same will be used…..In calculating financing side effects it is better to use same rate through out the calculation!!

    November 20, 2012 at 5:01 pm #107892
    John Moffat
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    AQ! is correct – you should use the same rate throughout. Either the risk free rate, or Kd.

    November 20, 2012 at 11:40 pm #107893
    popo
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    Is this ungeared cost of debt?

    November 21, 2012 at 12:43 am #107894
    dazhong0703
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    Debt means “geared”. There is no ungeared cost of debt, only got ungeared cost of equity.

    November 21, 2012 at 6:19 pm #107895
    John Moffat
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    True! There is certainly no ungeared cost of debt 🙂

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