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Accruals and Prepayments / Next Periods

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  • This topic has 7 replies, 4 voices, and was last updated 10 years ago by John Moffat.
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  • August 25, 2014 at 5:30 pm #192283
    Toni
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    Hello, I wanted to ask – If we set up accounts period end to be monthly.

    For Accruals

    In Month 1- we Accrue £500

    In Month 2 What happens if the £500 Accrual, was actually we got billed :

    A) £100 Too High
    or B) £100 Too Low?

    Technically as we do accounts MONTLY we cant do anything right? since we cant go back and change our accounts?

    Whats the Logic AFTER for M2, I would be thankful if you can walk me through it and explain the later implifications/consequences.

    Thank You very much!!! 😀

    August 25, 2014 at 5:57 pm #192287
    John Moffat
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    I cover this problem in my free lecture on accruals and prepayments.

    All you do is record the actual payment, and make whatever accrual is necessary at the end of the month.

    The ‘missing’ figure is the expense for the Statement of profit or loss, and will automatically be $100 higher or lower that it really should be. This will effectively correct the under or over expense in the previous month.

    August 26, 2014 at 12:44 am #192317
    Carol
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    I need help with the following problem found on page 34. Question 5:
    Details of a company’s insurance policy are shown below:
    Premium for year ended 31 March 2008 paid April 2007. $25,920
    Premium for year ending 31 March 2009 paid April 2008. $28,800 what figures should be included in the company’s financial statements for the year ended 30 JUNE 2008

    I see how the prepayment is arrived at but the Profit & Loss is unclear given the different months of March, April and June.
    Thanks

    August 26, 2014 at 6:42 am #192332
    John Moffat
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    For the Statement of profit or loss, we want the expense for the period from 1 July 2007 to 30 June 2008.

    The period from 1 July 2007 to 31 March 2008 is part of the first bill. The premium was for 12 months – we want 1 July to 31 March which is 9 months, so for that period is 9/12 x 25920 = $19440.

    The period from 1 April 2008 to 30 June 2008 is part of the second bill. Again the premium is for 12 months – we want April to June which is 3 months, so fair that period it is 3/12 x 28,800 = $7,200.

    So the total expense is 19,440 + 7,200 = $26,640

    September 2, 2014 at 6:43 pm #193361
    gabriell
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    Dear John,

    Please explain
    On 1 may 2012 jonh paid a rent bill of 1800 for the period till 30 april 2011. What is the expense in the statement of profit or loss and entry in STOFP

    September 2, 2014 at 8:56 pm #193379
    John Moffat
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    Gabriell – have you watched my free lecture on Accruals and prepayments?
    I ask, because if you have then you really should not have had a problem with this.

    However, it is not possible for me to answer because you have not given enough information. Without knowing what year end the business has it is not possible to calculate the figures!

    (The proportion for the year in question is the expense in the years Statement of profit or loss. The remaining proportion will appear as a prepayment in the Statement of financial position.)

    September 3, 2014 at 9:12 am #193437
    gabriell
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    Asks for year ended 30 nov 2011

    September 3, 2014 at 12:16 pm #193466
    John Moffat
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    I still think you have typed the question wrongly. Are you sure that the rent bill is not for the year to 30 April 2012?

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