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accruals

Forums › Ask ACCA Tutor Forums › Ask the Tutor ACCA FA – FIA FFA › accruals

  • This topic has 11 replies, 3 voices, and was last updated 7 years ago by John Moffat.
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  • July 20, 2017 at 9:58 pm #397858
    mukuka2
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    Hai mr moffat.
    Sir I’m kindly in need of help on this question from bbp revision kit.

    A company pays rent quarterly in arrears on 1 January ,1 April,1july and October each year. The rent was increased from $90,000 per year to $120,000 per year as from 1 October 20×2.
    What rent expense and accruals should be included in the company’s financial statements for the year ended 31 January 20×3?

    July 21, 2017 at 7:31 am #397880
    John Moffat
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    We need the expense from 1 February X2 to 31 January X3.

    From 1 Feb X2 to 30 Sep X2 is 8 months and so the expense is 8/12 x 90,000 = 60,000
    From 1 Oct X2 to 31 Jan X3 is 4 months and so the expense is 4/12 x 120,000 = 40,000
    So the total expense for the year = 40,000 + 60,000 = 100,000

    As at 31 January X3, the most recent payment will have been on 1 January and will have been for Oct, Nov, and Dec. Therefore they are still owing for January and so the accrual will be 1/12 x 120,000 = 10,000.

    July 21, 2017 at 4:50 pm #397971
    mukuka2
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    Why is January been excluded

    July 22, 2017 at 10:40 am #398063
    John Moffat
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    It hasn’t been excluded!

    The expense is the rent from February X2 to January X3 because that is the companys financial year.

    The accrual for January is because the last payment was on 1 January and they are paying in arrears.

    Have you watched the free lectures on accruals and prepayments? The lectures are a complete free course for Paper F3 and cover everything needed to be able to pass the exam well.

    July 22, 2017 at 9:19 pm #398154
    fredymaila
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    At 31 December 20X5 the following require inclusion in a company’s financial statements:
    1: On 1 January 20X5 the company made a loan of $12,000 to an employee, repayable on
    1 January 20X6, charging interest at 2% per year. On the due date she repaid the loan and paid
    the whole of the interest due on the loan to that date.
    2: The company paid an annual insurance premium of $9,000 in 20X5, covering the year ending
    31 August 20X6.
    3: In January 20X6 the company received rent from a tenant of $4,000 covering the six months to
    31 December 20X5.
    What total figures should be included in the company’s statement of financial position
    as at 31 December 20X5?
    B Current assets $22,240 Current liabilities $nil
    C Current assets $10,240 Current liabilities $nil

    I am really ok with statements 2 and 3 but statement 1 seems a bit tough. i believe the answer to be C but B was recorded as one.
    Could you please explain what should happen with section 1 ?

    July 23, 2017 at 7:06 am #398178
    mukuka2
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    Yes I have watched them,I need go through them once more.

    July 23, 2017 at 9:46 am #398209
    John Moffat
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    Because the year end is 31 December but we will not receive the money until 1 January, the 12,000 is a current asset.
    In addition there is a years interest owing to us (from 1 January to 31 December) of 2% x 12,000 = 240, and so this is a current asset also.

    July 23, 2017 at 2:21 pm #398233
    fredymaila
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    Actually the money received from loan amount (12000) and interest (240) is also clear with me.

    The issue is that we are required to find current assets and not money alone.

    So when the debt is paid, shouldn’t the employee (debtor) be credited along with above entries in the cash book , thereby reducing current assets by 12000?

    Your guidance please.

    July 23, 2017 at 2:38 pm #398236
    fredymaila
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    So 6000+4000=10000 for sections 2 and 3.
    Then 12000+240 for loan payback and interest respectively =12240
    Then 12000 for crediting an employee (debtor).
    Finally we have
    10000+12240-12000=10, 240 on current assets

    July 24, 2017 at 8:44 am #398313
    John Moffat
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    The question cannot expect you to include cash in the current assets because there will have been lots of other effects on cash that we are not told about – so we do not know what the cash balance will be.
    That is why the question just refers to how the ‘following’ will be included.

    The wording may seem a bit confusing, but it was an actual exam question.

    July 24, 2017 at 9:12 am #398328
    fredymaila
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    Thought it was money that the employee paid back inclusive of both loan itself as well as interest.
    My question is : Why don’t we have to take the decrease in debtor’s amount into account ?
    Journal entries are
    Dr Cash. 12240
    Cr Debtor. 12000
    Cr Interest received 240
    Then why do we leave alone the Debtor’s amount ?

    July 24, 2017 at 9:31 am #398340
    John Moffat
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    But they are not paying back until after the end of the year. At the end of the year they still owe us the money!! Check the dates again 🙂

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