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- September 11, 2020 at 12:00 am #584914
yes you aint wrong either hopefully we all make it im not sure about myself tho π
September 11, 2020 at 1:09 am #584915I really think that with these exams there should be two monitors in order to work efficiently otherwise a lot of time is wasted clicking back and forward on multiple windows in order to refer to the figures and scenarios.
These exams were previously paper based exams which eventually changed to computer in order to mimic real world workplace environment. Arguably these cbe exams is still early days so if enough people give feedback on the insufficient time allotted for each exams and the damn issues with the windows, it would help future candidates.
September 11, 2020 at 3:39 am #584919the question said with an increase in the salary of 3% every year so in calculating the pv arent you supposed to increase by 3% every year and then consider the leavers and discount it idk i might be wrong
September 11, 2020 at 3:41 am #584920I got a strange number as well.. calculate based on share price 3.8 for NCI at FV as well
September 11, 2020 at 4:22 am #584921AnonymousInactive- Topics: 43
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I had a hunch that cash flow might come up, as I thought I recalled Opentuitiion Tutor here warned us in his video. I did two cash flow questions during my revision, one from Kaplan textbook, one from Kaplan revision kit. Hope I gained enough marks on that question. But I still hadn’t enough time to even comtemplating this final question. 25 marks. I am crying.
September 11, 2020 at 4:39 am #584922AnonymousInactive- Topics: 43
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I completely forgot now: there purchase of associate happened in the year? I can’t recall.
September 11, 2020 at 8:24 am #584928I think just follow the requirement as it asked whether the brand should be subsumed in within goodwill or be separate accounted for. IAS38 states that if the IA is not separable it should be subsumed in within goodwill. It has to be legally or contractually separated either to sell it or use it.
The last part was about indefinite life / definite life of the two new acquisition brand. The directors intended to recognised the brand as indefinite useful life. My opinion was, the first one have long track records, it has good past experience to produce economic benefit for the entity. It should be alright be treated as indefinite useful life. However, assessment would be made each year for the if there is any indication of declining future cash in flow from the continuing use of the asset. Impairment test each year is required by comparing the carrying amount against the recoverable amount.
In respect of the 2nd brand i think not acceptable to be treated as indefinite useful life because it is new.
September 11, 2020 at 8:30 am #584929I did the same as yours. T account is the most efficient way as we dont have much time to drag there.
September 11, 2020 at 8:31 am #584930The SBR remotely held CBE exam was a disaster. It took more than an hour to connect to Onvue after which it took more than 20 minutes to check credentials and photos. This added to stress which was multiplied by the exam format with several windows to be opened on a laptop, which couldn’t be resized to fit the laptop making it difficult to read without closing and opening them several times and toggling between the windows. Further, to worsen the situation, the tab key did not work in the word processor to input figures at a distance. Had to use the space key multiple times to input the figures in an orderly fashion. All this took considerable amount of time and ultimately resulted in insufficient time to complete the exam. As a result, I didn’t have time to answer the 2nd question of the B Section.
ACCA should have checked the word processor and should have considered extending the exam time knowing that the students would neither be having a paper based exam nor a sufficiently large screen to fit all windows so as to enable read and write at the same time.
September 11, 2020 at 8:41 am #584932I think those self interest, advocacy is applicable and can bring in for discussion. As i remember, the scenario did mentioned that the customer is approaching the chief accountant and offer him a good employment post. I think from practical view, he actually has two option either to accept the offer, or to consult with someone like his superior/management. Since it is not good to turn down the offer from business point of view, but assessment of the customer credit risk would be needed since the scenario did tell customer are in bad credit rating ie cash flow tight.
Another issue is something like block chain technology that the company are promoting. I think technical competence and due care, professional behavior, integrity might be relevent as the chief accountant aware himself do not have the knowledge yet he promise the management that he can handle the project. He should have been be honest, not to discretion the profession. He is recently qualified as ACCA member.
But most importantly is what action he could do as the requirement specifically asked for that. So might need conclude with that to gain the professional marks. I guess…
September 11, 2020 at 8:55 am #584936My opinion about that question is IFRS 5 and IAS36 and IAS 37 can be relevant.
IFRS 5 apply because the store is already closed during the financial year. Despite the director is unwilling to classify for that nor he is willing to disclose. But the standard still requires the company to reclassify as per IFRS5 and disclose as discontinued operation.
Before reclassification, it needs to conduct impairment test and recognise at the lower of CV and FVLCTS (more relevant as no more operation means no future economic benefit, VIU less relevant) because uncertainties surrounding the situation.
IAS37 provision should be consider if there’s any constructive / legal obligation arising from those closure ie compensation to those affected employees/other cost incurred (but not future cost).
September 11, 2020 at 9:20 am #584937The closure of 6 stores should take into account for impairment because the scenario did states that many other stores similar to the the entity operate were closed. Means there are uncertainties surrounding and should conduct impairment test as there are indication (from externally ie market).
The scenario also mention that the stores was closed , essentially it should be classify and non current asset held for sale and discontinued operation. IFRS 5 requires reclassification and disclosure if its happened in the financial year.
September 11, 2020 at 9:41 am #584940Somehow i feel like in the question 4 bi, is related to IAS 19 and IAS 37. Firstly, It says define benefit liability arising due to the current cost expected to be deliver as per the promised term and condition if the employees remain with the company.
IAS 37 says there are 3 criteria for recognition, cost, probable outflow and past event and these three criteria have actually met. It was probable 75% of the employees will be remain with the company, 3% increase in remuneration each year from 2013. As such, the cost can be reliably measured.
Therefore, 1% should be taken up as a current cost to PL and the other corresponding entry by increase each respective years defined obligations these cost meet the liabilities/provision as per IAS37.
September 11, 2020 at 10:10 am #584942Yep did the 3% increase first and discounted to PV π Hopefully its right
September 11, 2020 at 10:11 am #584943Yeah I agree just didn’t manage to figure it out in the exam :'(
Hopefully I still get enough marks for my held for sale and provision explanations
September 11, 2020 at 10:25 am #584944Wow how do you remember all the standards names!
Did you not discount the 3% raises to PV then?
There were some notes saying gains were to be reclassified to OCI though so I think they were getting at if the closing balance was higher than the actuarial estimate then it should go to OCI instead of asset ceiling? I don’t think i wrote that in the exam though
September 11, 2020 at 10:26 am #584945Great exam! tailored to keep the pass rate down as the June 20 exam was cancelled. Pretty shameful!
September 11, 2020 at 11:33 am #584954Hi Guys, do you remember on Q1 reverse goodwill, did it ask for just the calculation or did it also asked us to explain ? I am not sure if i explained it , i only calculated.
September 11, 2020 at 11:35 am #584955Do you know what the answer for part b for IAS 19 should be , they mentioned if the service period changes or employee leaving the company changes
September 11, 2020 at 1:49 pm #585027I answered same as you. Literally the same. So we must be both correct!
September 11, 2020 at 1:53 pm #585028For the question how will goodwill and gain on purchase consolidate in financial statement? I wrote according to ias38 intangible will be measured at cost and revaluation model and if the revaluation increases the asset it will be recorded in oci with revalution surplus within oce and if revaluation decreases the asset it needs to be recorded within p&l this is how goodwill will be recorded. Hope this is correct ?
September 11, 2020 at 3:33 pm #585066what was the difficulty level of paper?
September 11, 2020 at 3:35 pm #585068and what about cash flows question? was it difficult or not?
September 11, 2020 at 4:06 pm #585082The brand questions were IAS 38 Intangible assets. An intangible with an indefinite life is not amortised buy tested for impairment at the end of each period with gains/loss going to profit and loss
September 11, 2020 at 4:13 pm #585087Its certainly a strange way to test people under such time constraints. I suppose the are thinking the knowledge should be so crystal clear it should just flow out without the need to much consideration.
However in reality its not a realistic scenario for accountants to work in. You would not hand over a rushed piece of work to anyone unless you had time to review, think about it and check it.
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