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- December 6, 2019 at 7:47 pm #555362
i guess 6-7 marks of 14 were for sensitivity ,var and analysis, probably rest for the npv,working cap,wda etc.
i put in the var formula but completely forgot how to calculate the figure,hopefully get 1 mark for the attempt.
anyone figure out yet what a profit centre does or was it some myth to scare the bejesus out of everyone as conviently it was 1a?December 6, 2019 at 8:16 pm #555365VAR .035 * 2 by 1.645
Or am I missing somethingAgree @rommark 7 what a horrible question for 7 marks like seriously
Then the 2 marks for cash flow wow
December 6, 2019 at 8:31 pm #555366i know seems that they tested alot of stuff that the majority would just tend to skim over such as that and delta/gamma for 14 marks, funny thing is that i knew the variables of rho theta delta and vega but of course they asked gamma
December 6, 2019 at 8:32 pm #555367I think: 1.65 x (value of standard deviation given, can’t remember it) x (square root 4 as 4 year project) .. but I could easily be wrong
You know I’d be very relaxed about failing and repeating were it not for the move to CBE exams from March, which sound like a load of crap and from doing one for F7 it was indeed a MASSIVE pain. Using excel with zero functionality and having to view the quesiton in “parts” on screen instead of having a paper version in full in front of you
December 6, 2019 at 8:39 pm #555368Very frustrating due to time pressure. This is not the fair way of testing our knowledge. There were a lot of calculations with few marks which were time consumming and when I got to the highly marked requirements I could not focus due to time pressure. Regarding changes needed for profit centre treasury departement I have written about specialized highly prepared employees to hedge against forex and interest rate risk and to invest the company’s cash. The gains from hedging and cash investments to be considered as incomes. This is the only thing that came to my mind.
December 6, 2019 at 8:47 pm #555369Ireland is the first to do CBE for professional exams that is what the guys told me today so it bit like unfair that couldn’t be right you’d think
It only 7 marks for the gamma delta
Ya that is what I did but 1.65 is technically wrong as per tables it is 1.645 I think I’ll let them know lols
The sales percentage was that sales then discount then divide by npv
December 6, 2019 at 9:05 pm #555371Ireland along with few set others are starting CBEs in March for STrategic Pro papers…
If it comes to it, I may even jump over to London to repeat in March if I really dont fancy CBE, cross that bridge if and when hahaDecember 7, 2019 at 12:09 am #555378Hi
Q1 I felt calculations went ok.
1a I was a bit lost and wrote some waffle around costs and profits and information needed.
Gamma and delta, waffled about risks but don’t think I would have scored any marks completely forget what they meant.
Did anyone write anything about the customised hedging from the bank?
The directors opinion, I said something about no need to diversify etc.
Q2 found ok although forgot how to do value at risk, and maybe scrapped a mark for sensitive analysis.
The question I felt was repetitive in theory in regards to not using the real options and to criticise the investment appraisal procedures.
Q3 think I done ok on the Calcs, had to use a balance figure for cash though.
The 10 mark at the end I didn’t do any calculations for, nothing to compare in the event of liquidation just didn’t have time.Felt like it wasn’t an extremely hard exam just wasn’t my most practiced areas.. nothing on betas or apv, ungearing regearing which I practiced a lot.
Wasn’t a lot of marks for calculations either.On q2 the WC the decrease each year was this 12% of the decrease I couldn’t really understand that part?!
I think I got +NPV of 3.5 or something.Hoping to scrape by.
December 7, 2019 at 3:53 am #555386For question 1, should we use 5.20% or 5.20% (+/-0.8)? in the final outcome for FRA and the options?
Because the question said to use 5.20% if interest rate increases or decreases.
If i’m not mistaken. Kinda confusing
December 7, 2019 at 4:17 am #555388Interest rate FRA (2-5 OR 2-7),
Which is the correct one?December 7, 2019 at 5:26 am #5553892-7 FRA
December 7, 2019 at 7:18 am #555391Omg i wrongly took 2-5 as i running out of time i just saw in 2 months for 5 months so my brain was like 2-5 supposely 5 mths is 7.
December 7, 2019 at 8:08 am #555393Thank for the details
December 7, 2019 at 8:37 am #555394I can understand. Due to time pressure I did some fullish mistakes I am not proud of. 🙂
December 7, 2019 at 9:59 am #555402I have used 6% and 4.4%, 2 scenarios.
December 7, 2019 at 10:04 am #555405Ummmmm I certainly agree with you,why must we be failing because of time?as if employers consider time and not the knowledge when employing us,they really must be a balance..look at SBL I thought the increase in time to four hours was because of information overload which would be about 14pages but the December sitting it only had about 5pages?now to think of it it how can SBL have four hours with normal exam information whilst AFM 3hours with too much information…
December 7, 2019 at 11:09 am #555413Thought it was quite hard if im honest particularly question 3 – also the depth of the course that was actually tested didnt seem that large – bar one or two small things there was no need to consult the formula sheet at all which i found strange.
Q1 – Was happy initially when I saw it in comparison to some of the previous Q1 , part a ) was about the profit centre v cost centre – hadn’t seen this tested before – changes that i went through that were required were personnel, attitude to risk, technology to allow it , mgt structure – but these could be miles off. b) the computations of the currency and ir hedging went well , as did the inter co netting , the gamma and delta – went through what this was but didnt address it greatly , the report wasnt great due to time constraints. part c) the 20% equity holder asking about risk – agreed that they may be correct that shareholders themselves should hedge against risk in their portfolios but in this case with IR and FX risk being an everyday part of business it was prudent to do so and expected.
Q2 – Relatively ok on the NPV Calcs – made a few silly errors down to pressure nothing else but thats going to happen . VAR -messed up the formula again just exam pressure , and covering sensitivity wasn’t great – b) on the possible downfalls in there evaluation – i think that they had said the price was guaranteed by the goverment and this was one of the factors that if under 10% they would reject but though as guaranteed price it was rash to reject if this element below the threshold and all else good
Q3 – Nightmare from start to finish if I got 5 from it i would take it – havent seen a q like this set out and was expecting some CAPM, Asset Beta, WACC etc but not to be .
Anyway would be doing very well to get over the 50 but such is life – let us know any thoughts.
December 7, 2019 at 4:08 pm #555437I thought damn M&A will be in case study (either merging like reverse takeover or unbundling). I’ve never think about currency and interest rate hedging will come together as a case study 50marks. When I did a lots of past exam papers, Interest rate hedging is famous as 25 marks question. And I only remember delta aims to set up riskless portfolio and though I know delta and gamma relates but forgot how. I used a lot of time for question 1.
Question 2 Local NPV is like giveaway question. Don’t even need to do risk adjusted WACC. Only a little bit tricky for sensitivity and VAR part. But I didn’t have enough time.
All three questions, more marks carried for discussion part (especially Q.3) which is students needed to read properly about given information in the question. Part (a) adjusted profit and net cash balance 2marks, Part (b) adjusted SOFP 4marks and the balance marks are for part (c) discussion. All students know that there is no thinking time in the exam.
I found it fair exam but time pressure. And my time management suck!
Overall I’m totally disappointed myself.December 7, 2019 at 6:39 pm #555449Please do anyone remember the business names used in AFM December 2019 P4 paper:
I remember Loilita restaurants
Enjin, curzeteck, dramanleo but the spelling is not correct. Please help if you canDecember 7, 2019 at 8:15 pm #555452I don’t remember names, but why? Youll recognize the question if they put it up as a past paper
December 8, 2019 at 2:40 am #555457Can anyone tell me the formula to calculate investment cost?
December 8, 2019 at 2:40 pm #555485Thanks Cathy! I will await the posting from ACCA website.
December 8, 2019 at 3:22 pm #555487@khill101 said:
Ireland along with few set others are starting CBEs in March for STrategic Pro papers…
If it comes to it, I may even jump over to London to repeat in March if I really dont fancy CBE, cross that bridge if and when hahaBelfast still has the paper exam in March 2020 .That’s my plan B in case I fail. Would be much cheaper than flying into London
December 9, 2019 at 6:40 am #555516Feel it was a christmas gift as compared to the past sittings (march,june, september 2019) ACCA made this very easy for us this time and i blew it.
Was so time pressured and occupied with answering all the areas that i even forgot the basic 4 free marks the give just to put report, introduction and conclusion.
I feel if i had more time i would have guaranteed a pass. But due to time i am not even sure.
Even after calculating all the marks i am sure of, i am only getting to 41% but the rest of the marks i am so unsure where the will come from. Guess from here on out its just Faith.
December 9, 2019 at 7:50 am #555524@willis1951 said:
This was a simple exam technically except for Q.3 but was unnecessarily time pressured with very few marl allocation!It seems this examiner has missed point of setting this particular exam because he seems more inclined to testing time management rather than the skills.Even in offices,you need time to think and analyze the problem and organize your solution before writing it out.In this exam,this was missed out instead questions were designed with so much details but with little time to assemble the information.I HAVE SERIOUS RESERVATIONS WITH MARK ALLOCATIONS IN THIS SITTING.TOO MUCH QUESTION REQUIREMENTS WITH MASSIVE INFORMATION WITH VERY FEW MARKS.LOOK AT Q.3 a)2 marks to calculate the net cash flow from restructuring,4marks to construct a Revised statement of Financial position following the Restructuring.!This paper was unnecessary time- pressured for no good cause!If the examiner has run out of good technical questions,he/she should step aside and leave a new examiner to take over the setting.THIS PAPER WAS PURE EXAGGERATION OF TIME PRESSURE.Candidates should be tested on a reasonable balance between technical aspect and time management.I will fail this paper not because of lacking knowledge but the reasonable time pressure created by the examiner asking too many small questions which require a lot of information for little marks.The examiner missed the point here.By the way,who is the current examiner for AFM?I agree to this entirely, I studied everything and knew how to answer but just time was an issue and my passing mark has been risked. And so when i left the room i just thought and it clicked i forgot to calculate the basic things and include the easiest of marks.
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