*** ACCA P6 June 2018 Exam was.. Instant Poll and comments ***

Unfortunately P5 has the lowest of all pass rates

@karanpreetrobin said:
q1: there was no IHT as the cottage was sold.
CGT: As it was sold to connected party MV should have been used?

first year max pension could be 3600 ( as no relevant earnings)
second year up to 40k plus c/f allowance from last year

@dskinner83 said:
I put the maximum pension contribution as £3,600 in the first year (2018/19?) since she only had rental income which is not relevant for the purpose of calculating pension contributions. She also hadn’t been a member of a pension before so couldn’t bring forward any annual allowance.

For the following year, she had the £40,000 annual allowance and the unused allowance of £36,400 from the previous year, which makes a maximum contribution of £76,400. (I think her share of partnership profits were greater than that, so that would have been the maximum she could contribute without an annual allowance charge).

Don’t take that as gospel though, my head was spinning by that point!!

These make sense for the pension contributions. I got the £3,600 just because I was staring at the tax rates wondering the write and saw that. The second year I just guessed at £40k. Hopefully there were 2 marks for that (one for saying £40k and one for the £36.4k from the previous year).

@mohamedruzaik said:
Hi Guys 2018 June P6 exam papers is out and its in ACCA website please check.

Thank you!

I did the same do relevant earning some from propert income if yes then the 76400 was incorrect if not then 3600 ws correct

It was a mix between income tax and VAT! There was two parts to this question!

Sorry in advance for the length of this!

Q1 part 1, never come across this scenario before so did the MV less proceeds do 260-225=35k less 2 annual exemptions so £29k GCT, from the date of sale going back 7 years prior left £7k of NRB (I put an assumption that the spouse NRB was not available, they gave no info), then the usual 40% and taper relief.

For CGT, £260k less cost £165k = £95k gift relief hence base cost of £225k what he paid less £95k = £130k.

Q1 part 2, far too long to say all, don’t remember, the only thing I remember doing for partial exemption was adding back the 24% irrecoverable VAT to the expenses for the expansion plans A and B (pretty sure this is part wrong!). The pre tax additional profit I remember my figures being very similar with numbers like £84,385 and £83,853

Q1 part 3 was hopefully a gift.

I then did Q4, part a I remember something about 20% MV of the laptop and the redundancy package was the MV it was gifted or if higher the MV at date provided less the benefit for the year which was higher IIRC. The stat red pay reduced the ex gratia limit to £12k hence the taxable element was £20k.

Part b was current year loss relief (insufficient earnings), previous year (save the red pay at AR 45% and some at 40%) or the extended CB to 15/16 where some tax saved at 40%, some at 60% hence was the best option.

Part c I also went with £3,600 (rental income didn’t specify Furnished Holiday so I stated assumption it’s not relevant earnings), then the next year £40k plus the unused £36,400.

I then did Q2, part a Steam and Ghost NGNL transfer as part of gains group and G had joined group by the date of building sale. For Wagon trade loss b/f only usable by Wagon generating trade profits, the loss in the year however could be Group relieved however only for the corresponding period as G only joined group on June 18.

Part b on VAT, the non-EU import charge VAT on entering country and then claim input on next return, despite it saying no VAT in that country. For the EU sale charge standard rate as the company was not VAT reg.

Part c I said Dee Co, less than 25% OSC so CFC does not apply, for the other the low profits exemption doesn’t apply as non-trade income over £50k despite profit under £500k, then for the low margin I added the operating expenditure to the accounting profit to get turnover of £3,480,000 and I was clutching at straws with the 10% margin so said the taxable profit of 350 over 3,480 was was below 10% but I’m sure they would have a CFC charge for one?!

Part d i said current year claim, carry back, then carry forward. Not sure if correct, but I said group relief too. I might have also mentioned that they could take a 14.5% repayment but better to save 19% with group relief especially given it would reduce instalments (q stated you can’t get out of instalment threshold).

Finally, q3! Part a was gift relief but time apportion so only on the period it was used in the business. For part a 2 I think I referred to dying within 3 years of the gift hence no taper relief available.

Which led on to the last 12 marks of the exam in part b and c! My mind completely blanked on me at this stage. I made reference to being temporary non-res hence the warehouse being bought before he left would still be UK CGT regardless of when he left. I almost fell into the trap of sell it when he’s abroad and save CGT! Once I realised this, I froze and couldn’t figure out what the benefit is of delaying the sale.

For the first scenario I said the cost of £72,000 had to be lowered by the rollover gain of £16,000 so £56,000. I can see now that he’s only reinvested £72,000 not the £78,000 so maybe rollover of £10k to lower the cost to £62,000?! Add on the proceeds for the gain.

For scenario 2, I deduced no rollover because of the time, basically made it up and I’m sure is wrong.

So felt like I did well for 88 marks of the exam and just flopped the last 12 marks. I’m hoping I got the marks early on for the pass.

When I look back, I’m sure stamp duty should have been in there somewhere!

I wasn’t too sure so writ what I mentioned in my previous post.

For 7 marks I assume they wanted 7 points on how to relive the losses and how you would choose which is best. I’m sure most of this is to do with R&D.

The only decent points I recall making was they can elect for the tax credit of 14.5% but I don’t think I mentioned what that would relate to ie how much of the loss you get the credit on.

The options as far as I’m aware are the standard carry back, carry forward and the tax credit. Though I may have said to group relieve the loss which I’m not sure you can do!

UPDATE: a google search is suggesting you can group relieve the R&D loss too which makes my answers argument that a better to group relieve and save 19% CT then take a 14.5% tax credit.

I think the comments above confirm I have made a pig’s ear of my exam to put it politely!! Just a question with regards to the iht question you guys said you deducted the annual exemptions related to the pet, I thought since we were calculating the maximum iht liability, I assumed it meant therefore it would no longer be a pet if iht was to be calculated ie worst case scenario he died, therefore annual exemptions only available during lifetime. I never included these in the value of the gift. Did everyone include these?

Ah makes sense. Am sure I have done terribly! Glad it’s all over nonetheless!

Does anyone know when the June 2018 answers will be online?

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