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- April 17, 2018 at 5:38 am #447612
@essem said:
Spending a lot of time revising ratios is not very good use of your time given there will be maximum 5-10 marks for this.By this time in your studies, ratios should be second nature
Well, it did work for me and as a result I am a member now. I of course, was focusing not only on ratios, but for March exam sitting did more work on these than any other models. Most of the models are the same; focusing on quality, performance improvements and etc. Ratios are used to analyse different things. A lot in this exam is common sense + general business knowledge.
Pass is a pass and does not matter if it’s 70 or 51 🙂I believe in June will be question on corporate failure and environmental reporting + costs given into account the recent issues we are currently facing. Best of luck everyone!
April 17, 2018 at 8:31 am #447664I feel your pain but don’t give up
April 17, 2018 at 9:48 am #447677AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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luckily i passed with 50% at my first attempt. left with one done P7 thrice with the result not encouraging. tried p4 which was a bit worse. Reverting back to P7 and seeing what i can do. Almost there. congratulations to all affiliates
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they do, showing all the professional papers passed.
April 17, 2018 at 11:15 am #447698Another low pass rate for P5!! 29% again
April 17, 2018 at 2:18 pm #447755AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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I have had many attempts and finally passed with 54%!
For those who wants to change the paper, please DON’T DO IT!!
You have already spent so much time getting ready for this paper and all P’s are similar complexity. There is no easy paper at professional level.
Firstly, you have chosen this paper for the reason and secondly, it would take you long time again to learn new paper.Instead I changed the strategy, I would fully write my answers to questions and would submit them to Mr Mustafa Muchhala for reviewing. It is very very important that somebody knowledgeable checks your writing and directs you. You can write a lot in the exam but completely irrelevant points which would not score you anything.
It is just eye opener when you actually get feedback and start working on it long before the exam.First mock, takes you ages to write (forget about 3 hours) but as you practice you would write quicker and quicker because you would understand what you have to cut and where to concentrate.
Even if you don’t have time to write fully answers, you must always plan what points you would cover and compare with answers. Not always your answers should be the same as in the book. As long as it fits with question asked you get score!Please try what I did and keep practicing questions with feedbacks , don’t change the paper! All the best for those who retaking again in July!!!
April 17, 2018 at 2:31 pm #447756Failed , my first attempt with 41. I’ve not done P3 before and by looking at the Acca website. They have mentioned that the knowledge of P3 is required. i think , i’ve missed out on how to present the answers and lack a general idea on how to interpret the question. A feedback on how to go about and the techniques needed to crack the paper would be really helpful. Thanks.
April 17, 2018 at 2:41 pm #447759I completely understand you.I have a one year old and I work from 8 to 5pm each day.I had to do self study for p5 and I passed with 53 for the first time.Studying was not easy especially combining it with my baby and work but during lunch breaks I try to watch lecture notes on opentuition and I write salient points in my pocket notebook which I glance through from time to time at work and during the weekends I study too.
April 17, 2018 at 3:31 pm #447765Hi Essem,
Congratulation passing P5. Will you be kind enough to share your study methods and any study materials you have used.
Greatly appreciated!!!April 17, 2018 at 3:35 pm #447766@essem said:
Passed first time with 70% despite messing up the eva calculation. Spent around 40 hours working for this exam.Hi Essem,
Congratulation passing P5. Will you be kind enough to share your study methods and any study materials you have used.
Greatly appreciated!!!April 17, 2018 at 10:23 pm #447860I am worried about the low pass rate for P5. I passed it first time in September 2017. Am now an affiliate after passing P2 in March 2018. My advice to those expecting to take P5 in future. Firstly there is that temptation of the similarity between P3 and P5. Yes the similarity is there in all those models like Porter, BCG etc. However P5 is performance management and the focus is now, for instance determining the measures to be used to measure and manage performance. For example if we look at threats from new entrants P3 focusses on how this affects the business strategy while in P5 one should find a way of measuring the level of the threats and possibly come up with suggestions for improving performance. These may be identified from the scenario and also think of other measures and suggestions which suits the scenario. Students should read technical articles and watch P5 videos on ACCA website. I am not sure whether its a technical article or a video titled “don’t put your P3 head in P5 exam”. That article or video is a must read or watch for everyone who wants to pass P5. Another issue is that of answering the question that has been asked and not what you wish should have been asked or what you know about what has been asked. Revision is also key and its always good to start it early. Try to understand and not memorizing things. You should also come up with a strategy of approaching the exam. It’d good to start by questions which are easiest to boost your confidence as you proceed to more challenging ones.Above all don’t forget to pray for God’s hand. Wishing everyone the best.
April 18, 2018 at 5:01 am #447894Thanks for this wise and well laid out thought process in approaching P5 … one question tho what is the minimum time spent in revising this topic.also is there any special article outside of ACCA that can be used/read to gain a better understanding in approaching this exam.
April 18, 2018 at 8:52 am #447926@dinasul said:
I have had many attempts and finally passed with 54%!For those who wants to change the paper, please DON’T DO IT!!
You have already spent so much time getting ready for this paper and all P’s are similar complexity. There is no easy paper at professional level.
Firstly, you have chosen this paper for the reason and secondly, it would take you long time again to learn new paper.Instead I changed the strategy, I would fully write my answers to questions and would submit them to Mr Mustafa Muchhala for reviewing. It is very very important that somebody knowledgeable checks your writing and directs you. You can write a lot in the exam but completely irrelevant points which would not score you anything.
It is just eye opener when you actually get feedback and start working on it long before the exam.First mock, takes you ages to write (forget about 3 hours) but as you practice you would write quicker and quicker because you would understand what you have to cut and where to concentrate.
Even if you don’t have time to write fully answers, you must always plan what points you would cover and compare with answers. Not always your answers should be the same as in the book. As long as it fits with question asked you get score!Please try what I did and keep practicing questions with feedbacks , don’t change the paper! All the best for those who retaking again in July!!!
Hi Dinasul,
Can you tell us something more regarding your cooperation with a tutor? Was the specific package you bought? Did you submit your answers whenever you wanted and for the questions you wanted? Or were you navigated/guided by him every week?April 18, 2018 at 12:11 pm #447970@samie said:
Hi Essem,Congratulation passing P5. Will you be kind enough to share your study methods and any study materials you have used.
Greatly appreciated!!!For March 2018 exams I took P4 and P5. Early on I decided that most of time should be directed towards P4 given the amount of knowledge\calculations. From January 2018 to the date of exam my time was split 75% P4 and 25% P5
My approach to P5
1. Throw away your study text.
2. Read opentuition notes, I didn’t bother with the videos. I would dedicate 10-15 hours to this in total. Do not try to understand everything as I would recommend reviewing notes after attempting questions.
3. Most of your time, around 70% of it should be spent attempting questions. Personally I would practice questions taken from past papers on the acca website. I would also read the relevant examiners report for each exam, before and after attempting the paper. Ask yourself have you taken on board the guidance in the report.
4. When attempting the question, before reading the scenarios, read all the requirements first. Key to passing the exam is understanding what the examiner is asking for.An example, taken from the examiners report for the last exam March 2018:
“Part (ii) required an evaluation of the current performance dashboard in measuring the
achievement of the local government’s and waste management department’s aims. This was a
basic test of the candidates’ ability to interpret a dashboard and link it to the strategy of an
organisation and was generally done well. There were a number of candidates who did not
respond to the question asked and instead, evaluated the performance of the company (rather
than the dashboard) or else failed to link the dashboard to the aims.”The examiner asked for an evaluation of the current performance dashboard.
Most people that failed would have evaluated the current performance and would have scored 0 marks.Also, carefully read the question as all questions contain more than 1 requirement and will carry equal marks. Ignoring part of requirement will reduce the marks available to you by 2 or 3 times.
5. When reviewing your answers to past papers, check the examiners answers and try to see how he has applied the scenario to his answer. Using the scenario in the your answer is essential. Everything in the scenario has been included for a reason and using this in your answer is a skill that needs to be developed and practiced during your question practice.
6. Basic structure of an answer should be
“relevant information to question from scenario” + “this is what the information means” + “justification” of why it is important. This should be around 2 or 3 sentences.7. Do not write big paragraphs. As per point 6. each point should be 2 or 3 sentences long and should be its own individual paragraph. Have a new point to make? Start a new paragraph.
8. Time pressure in the exam is an illusion. We are aiming 50% and therefore should be aiming to make 60 points in the exam. As per point 6. each point should be 2 or 3 sentences long which should take 2 minutes to write. 2 min per point * 60 points = 120 minutes. Spend about 20-25 minutes reading the scenario. The remaining time should be spent carefully thinking about what you are going to write and whether it is relevant/answering the question.
9. Do not obsess over the calculations in this module. Spend 10-15 hours going over these during revision to understand how to do them. More important is understanding what they mean and interpreting the results. This also applies during the exam, do not spend time trying to get the calculations perfect, allocate time and move on. In the March 2018 exam I messed up the EVA calculation yet still managed to score 70% in the exam overall
April 18, 2018 at 2:39 pm #447986why do i had to fail at 48 🙁
April 18, 2018 at 3:10 pm #447994how come ?,
its so happy to hear that you have passed it and also with a wonderful marks,i have flunked it at 41,
please would you be able to guide me please?April 18, 2018 at 3:17 pm #447995i have failed it at 41,
first attempt and self study,
even though i have done everything to pass the paper,
covering the book, reading and understanding technical articles and practicing questions,
i just don’t know where i went wrong ,
please if anyone could guide me on this it will be really motivating to sit on June pleaseApril 18, 2018 at 3:18 pm #447996i have failed it at 41,
first attempt and self study,
even though i have done everything to pass the paper,
covering the book, reading and understanding technical articles and practicing questions,
i just don’t know where i went wrong ,
please if anyone could guide me on this it will be really motivating to sit on June pleaseif anyone interested as study buddy or a guider to teach me on my doubts please just let me know
thanks in advanceApril 22, 2018 at 10:52 am #448430Passed the exam first time with 55% as a self study student. I must say though that this was one of the harder papers I took and was the one I was most worried about.
I generally do better on the calculation papers, so P4 was an absolute joy to study last year and I got a good mark. When studying P5, however, I never really felt 100% comfortable. I did three hours a day, five days a week for two months to prepare. Didn’t read the text book, just did the Kaplan revision kit questions. Despite this I still felt unprepared on exam day. The problem with exams like this is that it’s hard to judge how well you have done when marking your answer. Advice of this forum did really help though with people stressing to apply the models to the scenarios.
April 24, 2018 at 9:05 am #448635what else did you take in the options? I skipped last March failed several times
April 28, 2018 at 10:40 pm #449239Hi Essem,
Many thanks for the tips and advise. Greatly appreciated.
All the very best…!!!
April 28, 2018 at 10:42 pm #449240@essem said:
For March 2018 exams I took P4 and P5. Early on I decided that most of time should be directed towards P4 given the amount of knowledge\calculations. From January 2018 to the date of exam my time was split 75% P4 and 25% P5My approach to P5
1. Throw away your study text.
2. Read opentuition notes, I didn’t bother with the videos. I would dedicate 10-15 hours to this in total. Do not try to understand everything as I would recommend reviewing notes after attempting questions.
3. Most of your time, around 70% of it should be spent attempting questions. Personally I would practice questions taken from past papers on the acca website. I would also read the relevant examiners report for each exam, before and after attempting the paper. Ask yourself have you taken on board the guidance in the report.
4. When attempting the question, before reading the scenarios, read all the requirements first. Key to passing the exam is understanding what the examiner is asking for.An example, taken from the examiners report for the last exam March 2018:
“Part (ii) required an evaluation of the current performance dashboard in measuring the
achievement of the local government’s and waste management department’s aims. This was a
basic test of the candidates’ ability to interpret a dashboard and link it to the strategy of an
organisation and was generally done well. There were a number of candidates who did not
respond to the question asked and instead, evaluated the performance of the company (rather
than the dashboard) or else failed to link the dashboard to the aims.”The examiner asked for an evaluation of the current performance dashboard.
Most people that failed would have evaluated the current performance and would have scored 0 marks.Also, carefully read the question as all questions contain more than 1 requirement and will carry equal marks. Ignoring part of requirement will reduce the marks available to you by 2 or 3 times.
5. When reviewing your answers to past papers, check the examiners answers and try to see how he has applied the scenario to his answer. Using the scenario in the your answer is essential. Everything in the scenario has been included for a reason and using this in your answer is a skill that needs to be developed and practiced during your question practice.
6. Basic structure of an answer should be
“relevant information to question from scenario” + “this is what the information means” + “justification” of why it is important. This should be around 2 or 3 sentences.7. Do not write big paragraphs. As per point 6. each point should be 2 or 3 sentences long and should be its own individual paragraph. Have a new point to make? Start a new paragraph.
8. Time pressure in the exam is an illusion. We are aiming 50% and therefore should be aiming to make 60 points in the exam. As per point 6. each point should be 2 or 3 sentences long which should take 2 minutes to write. 2 min per point * 60 points = 120 minutes. Spend about 20-25 minutes reading the scenario. The remaining time should be spent carefully thinking about what you are going to write and whether it is relevant/answering the question.
9. Do not obsess over the calculations in this module. Spend 10-15 hours going over these during revision to understand how to do them. More important is understanding what they mean and interpreting the results. This also applies during the exam, do not spend time trying to get the calculations perfect, allocate time and move on. In the March 2018 exam I messed up the EVA calculation yet still managed to score 70% in the exam overall
Hi Essem,
Many thanks for the tips and advise. Greatly appreciated.
All the very best…!!!
May 10, 2018 at 7:21 am #450995@ds3ce i passed P5 in Dec-2017 attempt, it was my last paper and also last attempt under 7 years rule but thank God i passed at 54 marks. P5 is tricky i passed it on my 7th attempt. my scores in last 6 attempts were in 40s. focus on past papers and exam kit, try to solve the questions first by writting them and then read the answers and if possible then check the videos of those questions it will help you to learn the techniques of attempting questions and will be easy to remember the points. Thanks and God Luck!!!
May 14, 2018 at 5:04 pm #451882@khalilm Thank you very much for kindly responding. Congratulations on becoming a member/affiliate. 🙂 I will ensure I follow your advice and essem’s tips as well. This is going to be my 3rd attempt. I will keep trying, keep going until I pass. 🙂 I feel more positive and more confident after reading all this. Thank you. 🙂
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@dinasul said:
I have had many attempts and finally passed with 54%!For those who wants to change the paper, please DON’T DO IT!!
You have already spent so much time getting ready for this paper and all P’s are similar complexity. There is no easy paper at professional level.
Firstly, you have chosen this paper for the reason and secondly, it would take you long time again to learn new paper.Instead I changed the strategy, I would fully write my answers to questions and would submit them to Mr Mustafa Muchhala for reviewing. It is very very important that somebody knowledgeable checks your writing and directs you. You can write a lot in the exam but completely irrelevant points which would not score you anything.
It is just eye opener when you actually get feedback and start working on it long before the exam.First mock, takes you ages to write (forget about 3 hours) but as you practice you would write quicker and quicker because you would understand what you have to cut and where to concentrate.
Even if you don’t have time to write fully answers, you must always plan what points you would cover and compare with answers. Not always your answers should be the same as in the book. As long as it fits with question asked you get score!Please try what I did and keep practicing questions with feedbacks , don’t change the paper! All the best for those who retaking again in July!!!
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@olaf said:
Hi Dinasul,
Can you tell us something more regarding your cooperation with a tutor? Was the specific package you bought? Did you submit your answers whenever you wanted and for the questions you wanted? Or were you navigated/guided by him every week?===
Hi Olaf, sorry haven’t seen your comments before.
Have a look at the LinkedIn for Mr. Mustafa Muchhala. You can find any information or contact him personally.
Best wishes and good luck with your P5 exam!!
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