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- June 8, 2018 at 12:00 pm #456806June 8, 2018 at 1:02 pm #457785
It is a disaster. First question is bsop. I didn’t expect that. I didn’t study this part at all bcoz my lecturer told me it already out last march. Question 2 fcff is a complicated one. I seriously don’t know what they want. Question 4 int rate hedge. It is okay, just i dont know how to do swaption. I think i fail this bad time. First time i fail so hard.
June 8, 2018 at 3:26 pm #457819I found it really hard too. Defo got the Depreciation / capital allowances wrong in Q1. Hadn’t a clue what to do. What cost of capital did u use to discount the cash flows? Couldn’t figure out what to use. Used 12% myself. Aaaagggh, what a nightmare!
June 8, 2018 at 3:57 pm #457822I calculate WACC as the company wanted to have a mix bt debt/equity of the engaged company.
I calculated the Ke of the Ruva company using MM2. with the rest of the data I calculated the WACC. it was around 7.2% I took 7% to make it easy looking at the tables.
No sure if i didn’t ok, I haven’t seen this way in any other practice books. I also took the incorrect cost of capital first so I have to re-do my calculations on the exam. big deal specially because my answer look messy and dirty 🙁
June 8, 2018 at 4:11 pm #457827Wheres the automated one?
Shall we use this to discuss it.?June 8, 2018 at 4:13 pm #457828What did you guys think of the exam?
The compulsory question was almost exclusively from this technical article.
The second TA on real options.
June 8, 2018 at 4:22 pm #457837n
June 8, 2018 at 4:23 pm #457840I didn’t remember clearly about all info provided about discount rate by the question… but based on my member which might be wrong.. the question provides the equity beta of a business that engages in business activity similar to project E and says that management team believe it can use this equity beta… so I used such equity beta to calculate Ke based on CAPM, then used Kd and capital structure data of the targeted company provided in the question to calculate WACC. I got 8.8% if correctly remember, and used it to discount all cash flow of project E, except for cash outflow i.e. initial investment needed by phase two as the question says 5%, Kd of targeted company should be used here…..anyway, the NPV I got for negative NPV for both phase one and phase two, which I felt odd and probably made mistake somehow….. anyway, I hope I can pass:-)
June 8, 2018 at 4:24 pm #457843Anybody do the hedging question?
did anyone get 5.46% effective rate for the futures?
June 8, 2018 at 4:28 pm #457855The question gave us the ungeared Ke. So we need to use the MM formula to get the geared cost of equity. With Ve = .60 and Vd =.40.
Then we need to find the WACC using the above proportion 40/60.
Long story short WACC was 11% me thinks.June 8, 2018 at 4:32 pm #457860For qs one I used the same all equity cost of equity ..because I made an assumption that project e phase one is financed by equity only as similar company cost of equity ungeared was given ….
Also then for phase two I separated did caclution where I used cost of debt for investment to be discounted and ..annuity facot for 10 years to discount back at 12% .which was given
I don’t know overall opinion of all .and I know it’s not all correct but I made few assumptions let’s c .how it comes out to be
June 8, 2018 at 4:34 pm #457861For heding I did calculated 49 contracts ..based length of time which was 7 months so 7/ 3 * 105000000/500000
But suddenly I changed it to 6/3 because I realise that heding risk is only for 6 months 1 June to 1 Dec
I don’t know how much I will score or lose
June 8, 2018 at 4:37 pm #457862I did get the same figure.
June 8, 2018 at 4:38 pm #457864No it should be 7/3 . The borrowing is for 7 months.
June 8, 2018 at 4:38 pm #457865Sadly, the areas that I didn’t revise and was weak came up.
Q1. Got BSOP wrong however NPV calculation was decent. Discussion bit was also good I think I was able to pick up some marks here and there. But just left soft capital rationing requirement completely as I was running out of time.Q2. Was relatively straight forward for me. I am hoping for most marks from this question. FCF for 4 years at a different rate and then two estimates with 5% and 0% growth thereafter. Ungeared Ke and APV calc.
Also discussion for reasons for acquisition and disadvantages of asset based and p/e valuation.Q3. FCFE calculation however was a bit tricky because foreign subsidiary involved. Got messed up with calc, sadly. Discussion parts were about dividend policy and increasing dividend repatriation in light of agency theory. Again bit muddled here.
Q4. I would love to do this question but was put off as soon as I saw “SWAPTION” in the discussion requirement.
Now just hoping for pass…
June 8, 2018 at 4:39 pm #457866So I put 42 contracts …but I m afraid how much will I lose
June 8, 2018 at 4:40 pm #457868Anyone got 5.46% for futures?
This was weird. Both alternatives came up with a loss but Effective rate was same tho.June 8, 2018 at 4:41 pm #457869June 8, 2018 at 4:44 pm #457870To be fair the exam is not too bad but as usual I spent too long on question 1 …anyway the discount rates used was 9%. I used APV to valuate phase one and the NPV was negative. I then used 5% as suggested in the scenario by the CFO to discount phase two and add the two together as the answer for Q1 (1).
Too late to discuss about it, what will be will be!
June 8, 2018 at 4:44 pm #457871@adolf121 said:
The question gave us the ungeared Ke. So we need to use the MM formula to get the geared cost of equity. With Ve = .60 and Vd =.40.Then we need to find the WACC using the above proportion 40/60.
Long story short WACC was 11% me thinks.Mine was the same using 11%.
For delay option for PV of future cashflow. I use the figure and 11% and by until anunity table of 6 year. too.. How to use 5% when it is cost of debt . That why question ask to comment on CFO belief.
June 8, 2018 at 4:46 pm #457872@adurich said:
So I put 42 contracts …but I m afraid how much will I loseContract should be 49 contract. Using 10.5m÷0.5×7/3
June 8, 2018 at 4:52 pm #457874Yeah I actually did 49 contracts but ..I mixed the period of loan and hedging risk period which was 6 ..so I cancelled 49 and put 42 instead ….ahhhhhh I m feeling so sad now
June 8, 2018 at 4:56 pm #457875How did you use Capm ? I wanted to but I couldn’t work out the market risk premium for the equation.
Your plan sounds good!June 8, 2018 at 5:02 pm #457879Well I used same discount factor 12% on phase one ..
But also I assume the market return as it was not given..so I assumed it be 10% …so when I wasted much time calculating I realised that it would be around 12% anyway ….so I just assumed that examiner wants us to use the same project specific discount rate as this is the only project asked about ..but phase one only !!
Well these are my own thinking and assuption I m not saying these are correct but I assumed things alot ..so that I could move on in the paper .so much time pressure ..I also did not complete one optional question which was qs 2
So I really don’t know but I enjoyed doing the paper !!
June 8, 2018 at 5:02 pm #457880That’s what I have done, but I took Vd and Ve the othe way round … 😐
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