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- December 9, 2016 at 5:20 pm #362752
As we are selling euro to buy dollar dont we need to buy put options Even though there was no contract currency for options.
December 9, 2016 at 5:23 pm #362753However i multipled the dollar payable to the strike price and added the premium of put options which is in dollar and converted the dollar premium it to euro using spot rate.supoose if i am wrong on the put option choice am i going to get any mark for the working.so stressed
December 9, 2016 at 5:29 pm #362756AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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The base currency was in Euro; which will be sold to obtain US$ hence put option. Anyway, I stand to be corrected by the experts.
The Q4 was straightforward though. I had a positive NPV .
December 9, 2016 at 5:30 pm #362757AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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guys, for proposal 2, the cost of debt (risk free rate plus spread) was equal to the rate given in the question. I made a comment that this meant that book value was the same as market value. How did you guys evaluate the effect on earnings? I tried to determine the additional investment (9%) and added to after tax earnings. this part wasnt clear to me really; didnt know what comment to make
December 9, 2016 at 5:31 pm #362759You are correct on everything but put option.
I try to simplify- since we are multiplying if rates goes down (which is put option) we will benefit because lower rates multiply with $ payments lower outcome.
On the hand, we are only bothered if rates go up (call option) we will loose out money- higher rates multiply with $ payments-higher outcome.
So which one would you pick now? Obviously call?December 9, 2016 at 5:37 pm #362765Ok so am i going to get any mark @karanpreet robin u reckon mate.
December 9, 2016 at 5:39 pm #362767I think you will only loose a mark
Obviously you multiply with the $ payments which was the main trick.December 9, 2016 at 5:45 pm #362770But again i choose the wrong option so do you still think i am going to get some marks mate.
December 9, 2016 at 5:48 pm #362774I think you should as long as you calculated premium with spot rate and $ payment @ both strike prices (one after another). There was no contacts involved in this bit. You just had to show the worst outcome.
December 9, 2016 at 5:50 pm #362776I used the premium for put options though or premiums were same for both put and call option as i cant remember
December 9, 2016 at 6:09 pm #362788Did any one find the asset beta for hotel and holiday package department using 70% proportion to work out the equity beta using new capital structure after selling repairment department.
December 9, 2016 at 6:13 pm #362790karen are you positive that we had to buy calls? i would have thought it was the same as an exchange traded except we had no under and overhedge… also how were we supposed to calculate the sensitivity of the price to a zero npv? i didnt know where to start for that part
December 9, 2016 at 6:14 pm #362791I calculated the maximum price as the MV before to Mv after acq. I believe that that I missed something out as the figures I got did not look right as they were below the premium required by the company.
Not feeling confident with my answers as I felt I was rushing each question. P4 is a tricky customer.
December 9, 2016 at 6:16 pm #362792Did anyone else use the growth rate g=bre for this?
As the question said 65% paid to divs, I assumed 35% reinvestment=b
Then used the free cash flow to equity formula FCFE(1+g)/(re-g)
I think i got g as 4.9%??
December 9, 2016 at 6:22 pm #362794was the NPV above $7million ? as well as the futures? $6.7million or something close?
And the current WACC 11.06% , first proposal 14.67% and second proposal 9.88% ??Please anyone will be clear is it a put or call option to use?
December 9, 2016 at 6:47 pm #362803AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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@mick299 said:
Did anyone else use the growth rate g=bre for this?As the question said 65% paid to divs, I assumed 35% reinvestment=b
Then used the free cash flow to equity formula FCFE(1+g)/(re-g)
I think i got g as 4.9%??
yea
December 9, 2016 at 6:50 pm #362805AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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@fard786 said:
Did any one find the asset beta for hotel and holiday package department using 70% proportion to work out the equity beta using new capital structure after selling repairment department.something like that; the part to be sold off was 30% and they gave the asset beta. the part to be retained was 70%. you first find the asset beta of the company as a whole then find the asset beta of the part of the business retained. you then find the equity beta using the capital structure. then ke and wacc. I think the marks were small for all that number crunching
December 9, 2016 at 7:05 pm #362811It was a put option. Similar prev ques in rev kit CMC Co
December 9, 2016 at 7:07 pm #362812Paper was not hard at all u r right bro time ruined me in Q4 i only put the discount rate and time was over arthmatics consumed all my time in Q1 and then in Q2 examiner was very unfair in marks allocation may pass at 50 or fail at 49 god knows
@karanpreetrobin said:
At least for me, Easy exam but very poor time management.
Correct me if I am wrong?
Question 1- A) Business risk and finance risk relations
B) Proposal 2 recommended due to it was bring WACC down.
C) Huge saving on proposal 1 due to less interest payments but still suggested proposal 2 because of future investments and growth etc. Lots of assumptions like CAPM, New beta Calculation Risk free rate, Tax rate, Market value of assets on sale etc.
Question 2- GOD!! I wasted hell a lot of time, Made so hard for myself.
Part-A)Futures-I divided $payment/future rate, and then divided by LOCK in Rate.
Sell/Short futures 55 contracts 5 months one
OTC Options- Nice and easy- Premium were already calculated 🙂
Buy Call options 6month expiry then showed the worst outcome. This time I multiplied the strike price with $payment.
B) Advantages using OTC options over future-GIVE AWAY
Flexibility, No binding, If things goes wrong we can always throw the options
C) Easiest question in the exam-
Mark to Market- Futures trading Open daily and close daily, Open next day again etc etc Calcuate the profit/loss accordingly-first 2 days was a loss and then 3 day was profit (I think)Question 4) F9 Level Straight forward NPV
Sensitivity analysis Selling price to decrease 9.33% to bring NPV down to zero.
Few other recommendation like IRR, MIRR and VARPlease correct me if you think anything mentioned above is wrong??
Thanks
KazDecember 9, 2016 at 7:44 pm #362826Q2 i think it is put option where you will sell € in order to buy $ for the payment of $7.7 m
December 9, 2016 at 10:02 pm #362855@kolkleen said:
something like that; the part to be sold off was 30% and they gave the asset beta. the part to be retained was 70%. you first find the asset beta of the company as a whole then find the asset beta of the part of the business retained. you then find the equity beta using the capital structure. then ke and wacc. I think the marks were small for all that number crunchingHello
I have actually followed the same method of calculating asset beta of the whole company & then the asset beta of the business retained, but I have deducted 0.65 beta asset which was given , directly from the beta asset of whole company without considering the 70:30 ratio there. What’s ur take on that ? I was actually getting a higher wacc because of this.
December 9, 2016 at 10:12 pm #362857AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Hi guys,will acca penalise me? Had started with the hedging question before realising the NPV was more straighforward so I started on that but couldn’t finish? Will they pick the worst two or best two? I’m really worried here.
December 9, 2016 at 10:13 pm #362858AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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@singh25a said:
HelloI have actually followed the same method of calculating asset beta of the whole company & then the asset beta of the business retained, but I have deducted 0.65 beta asset which was given , directly from the beta asset of whole company without considering the 70:30 ratio there. What’s ur take on that ? I was actually getting a higher wacc because of this.
may just miss 1 mark on that. Your follow on calculations and conclusion will be marked based on the own figure rule.
December 9, 2016 at 10:39 pm #362868does anyone remember the marks available for each requirement?
December 10, 2016 at 3:09 am #362926Silly mistake from ny side…didnt calculate any asset beta….assumed kd same as coupon rate of 6.2%. Any idea how many marks i could lose? ?
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