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- June 5, 2018 at 8:11 pm #456626
Hate the autopsy after the exam…UK variant and did questions 2 and 4.
Q1 – not the worst – quite fair. Annoyed that I forgot two adjustments that would have made my balance sheet balance!!!!! Did the calcs but didnt put the gain on BP to RE and didnt increase current liabilities for the provision otherwise would have balanced.
Q2 – detailed and tricky but hoping a lot of theory and sensible comments using facts will pick up marks. I think the gas contract was a ROU Asset that should have been impaired as part if the CGU impairment review – not an intangible but I didnt put this in the exam which is annoying (wrote about CGU impairment review then the intangible criteria and that this doesnt meet intangible criteria so should be derec and a liability held at pv with interest payments at effective rate etc).
Q4 wasnt too bad but part 4a i and ii was a bit waffly and poorly written because of the time pressure! Part 4b was very nice.
The UK variant bits were nice and hoping for some easy marks but never know.
Lets all enjoy the sun and get merry!!!
June 5, 2018 at 8:22 pm #456628@robertoh said:
Hate the autopsy after the exam…UK variant and did questions 2 and 4.Q1 – not the worst – quite fair. Annoyed that I forgot two adjustments that would have made my balance sheet balance!!!!! Did the calcs but didnt put the gain on BP to RE and didnt increase current liabilities for the provision otherwise would have balanced.
Q2 – detailed and tricky but hoping a lot of theory and sensible comments using facts will pick up marks. I think the gas contract was a ROU Asset that should have been impaired as part if the CGU impairment review – not an intangible but I didnt put this in the exam which is annoying (wrote about CGU impairment review then the intangible criteria and that this doesnt meet intangible criteria so should be derec and a liability held at pv with interest payments at effective rate etc).
Q4 wasnt too bad but part 4a i and ii was a bit waffly and poorly written because of the time pressure! Part 4b was very nice.
The UK variant bits were nice and hoping for some easy marks but never know.
Lets all enjoy the sun and get merry!!!
I’m glad you feel happy over the paper! I agree with you that it was a mix of easy and hard for sure, but there were certainly rewarding areas you could’ve scored near to max marks on in my opinion. I also did the variant UK
I do feel I’ve missed some core objectives of Q2/Q3 but feel I can make up the 50 marks with:
– my consolidation (I did all relevant workings and was 3 off so am quite confident I should get at least 25/35 if the examiner is nice)
– the 9 marker on associates and significant influence I feel was very approachable if you knew what they wanted, I mentioned:
Definition of associate, what constitutes significant influence (20-50% and the factors too about attending board meetings etc)
Then wrote the main difference in accounting being equity method not being allowed in FRS 102 but FVOCI is, where under IFRS SME’s, you can’t use FVOCI but can Equity account
– the 6 marks on ethics of the guarantee was really nice (I mentioned about IAS 24 and IFRS 9 and how it should be disclosed by standard and then the waffle on ethics)
– the other UK question on deferred tax asset was very approachable too (I mentioned the definition and the criteria to recognise a deferred tax asset. I then discussed the probability of them making future profit and referenced the economic crisis, I also then said although they’re expecting a significant profit, due to the external indicators, it’s probably impaired and thus actually may not make profit etc
The above questions I feel very confident about, then the remaining ones not as much at all, but I wrote all the jargon on standards and application to the question so hopefully if I have done well on the above then I can scrap some marks on the remaining questions.
I think a main indicator on passing is how well you’ve done on Q1 since that’s 50 makes worth
June 5, 2018 at 8:24 pm #456631Disposal 10%
I used 180 share capital and got a value of 48
Calculated increase to nci and difference recorded to oceImpairment 14
Goodwill sub 1 -20 something and sub 2 70 something
Got a negative post profit -6 for sub 1 and sub 2 was 42 i think but these included increase in other components of equity which i seperated after
Deducted 5 for contingent liability
Fv plant was 80 and land 30
June 5, 2018 at 8:25 pm #456632My balance sheet did not balance by 35
June 5, 2018 at 8:36 pm #456634@lannajacques said:
Disposal 10%
I used 180 share capital and got a value of 48
Calculated increase to nci and difference recorded to oceImpairment 14
Goodwill sub 1 -20 something and sub 2 70 something
Got a negative post profit -6 for sub 1 and sub 2 was 42 i think but these included increase in other components of equity which i seperated after
Deducted 5 for contingent liability
Fv plant was 80 and land 30
May I ask why you take the adjustment to OCE, I took mine to RE (realistically a 0.5-1 mark difference)
Every question I’ve done before has taken it to RE, I know this was a disposal in exchange for shares in another company, but the NCI portion itself I took to RE
June 5, 2018 at 8:36 pm #456635I got 48m consideration and calculated 10% of net assets and goodwill at year end and got 1,9 gain to equity.
June 5, 2018 at 8:37 pm #456636Ah yes the part in Q2 about the defered tax – added a few lines of waffle in there about the potentially hyper inflationary environment of the sub and the possibility of valuing it in dollars which could stop the huge operating losses, and the massive gain being mainly down to FX rates.
June 5, 2018 at 8:42 pm #456638@anonymous123 said:
why financial instrument in 1a has to be at 49 ? i thought it had to be at amortised cost ? it was kept for the cash flow so it kept until maturity and then sell ? it passed the business model test surely.If held to maturity it is not sold. The question said it is sold but did not say anything about maturity so i held it at FVTPL
June 5, 2018 at 8:42 pm #456640Good points – didnt have time to write about parent functional currency potentially being the same for sub but that would make great sense!
June 5, 2018 at 8:50 pm #456644Good idea in mentioning the volatility of the FX rate, I mentioned how the rate is already depreciating at a significant rate and how this is another indicator of external impairment 🙂
June 5, 2018 at 8:53 pm #456645@natha488
The entries for a decrease in ownership without loosing control is
DR cash (usually)
CR NCI
CR Other components of equityJune 5, 2018 at 8:57 pm #456646@jmmyjimmy said:
Guys, did anyone have goodwill of:S1 – (28)
S2 – 71.???
same here .hope got full marks on goodwill
June 5, 2018 at 8:59 pm #456647@mackawara said:
same here .hope got full marks on goodwillMe too
June 5, 2018 at 9:01 pm #456650@nathan488 said:
May I ask why you take the adjustment to OCE, I took mine to RE (realistically a 0.5-1 mark difference)Every question I’ve done before has taken it to RE, I know this was a disposal in exchange for shares in another company, but the NCI portion itself I took to RE
The entries for a decrease in ownership without loosing control is
DR cash (usually)
CR NCI
CR Other components of equityJune 5, 2018 at 9:02 pm #456651@mackawara said:
I got 48m consideration and calculated 10% of net assets and goodwill at year end and got 1,9 gain to equity.I did same also…phew
June 5, 2018 at 9:06 pm #456652@mackawara said:
same here .hope got full marks on goodwillHah! Hope it is correct. I wonder, how much points are credited for the gain on bardain purchase and goodwill.
June 5, 2018 at 9:10 pm #456661@nathan488 said:
The question said right at the end that it’s not accounted or recognised under IAS 20 grants :/But your actual accounting seems okay.
I wrote for the £4m non refundable fee TO the other entity that they need to defer the expense (deferred expense) until it’s at that date, since they’ve paid for it but haven’t yet consumed the “benefit” of these trials
Then for the other free of £2m being received, I think I said to defer it as deferred income again for the similar reasons
I also waffled a bit about IFRS 15 and performance obligations.
At that point I had gone through an answer booklet and was just glad to have finished in time :’)
Bad news for me than. 🙁 Did not have time to assess the wuestion properly. 🙁 So… was there a strict prohibition to describe IAS 20 or I still can get something?
June 5, 2018 at 9:34 pm #456678.
June 5, 2018 at 9:49 pm #456683I got exactly the same as you. Hopefully that’s a good thing!
June 6, 2018 at 1:44 am #456708Question 1a. I think the consolidation was fair enough
1b. was straightforward equity accounting associate and susidiary with dicussions on ifrs on what constitutes control
Skipped 2-no time to read seemed vague and ambigous. Did 3 & 4.
Question 3 part a; was finance lease ,so discussed the treatment
part b R&D capitalisation and expenditure.and also applied bits of ias 37 provisions
part c can’t remeberQuetion 4 was good. About historical cost and Current cost (fair value) for Assets and Liabilities….accounting treatment and whether it should remain same or not
Goodluck to everyone!
June 6, 2018 at 5:27 am #456712@jmmyjimmy You will not be penalised. Put your mind at rest. You will get mark in other areas that will give you pass mark.
Best of luck
June 6, 2018 at 5:37 am #456715Q3Ai has to do more with recognition and measurement of PPE than lease. though a bit of lessor accounting may suffice. Remember ifrs 16 (new lease standard) doesn’t have operating and finance lease…
June 6, 2018 at 7:06 am #456734June 6, 2018 at 7:17 am #456736@lannajacques said:
My balance sheet did not balance by 35Mine did not balance by 36.
June 6, 2018 at 8:11 am #456763I thought that was quite a kind exam. Question 1a was simpler than most of the practice questions. No major disposals, no foreign sub, no complicated adjustments requiring you to calculate a PV etc.
I finished it quite quickly, although my balance sheet didn’t balance by 6m. I think I forgot to add the fair value of the provision to liabilities and maybe made another mistake somewhere . Not sure I treated the provision correctly within goodwill either, I used 5m but maybe 10.6m was the correct figure to use. Hopefully I still got most of the marks.
For the share exchange, the shares received were in the new company. It stated no control or significant influence was gained so I calculated the value as 2/3 * 180 * 10% * 4 = 48m and debited that to other financial investments. The increase in NCI I got as 390 * 10% = 39m so there was a 9m credit to other components of equity.
I think 1b and 1c were fairly straightforward and well prepared students should have been able to pick up plenty of marks there.
I did 2 & 3. The gas storage facility, I wrote over a page on impairment of intangible assets before realising that actually the contract was probably a lease! I was out of time for that question then but I had a few minutes at the end. I came back and wrote some points about it being a lease and so should be dealt with as an accounting error and adjusted retrospectively.
Can’t really remember the details of the IFRS 9 question but I just waffled about the various rules about FVTPL, FVTOCI, amortised cost and expected credit losses for ages then applied them to the scenario.
For deferred tax I said they would need firm evidence, like confirmed bids, that the sale was likely to make profits big enough to use the tax losses and would have to disclose their reasoning for this.
The medical equipment I said it was a finance lease as lessee controlled the asset for the entire useful life. IFRS 16 does distinguish between operating and finance lease, but only for the lessor. I also said that although it was provided ‘free of charge’, it came under the scope of IFRS 15 as it was part of the same contract, so consideration could be calculated based on standalone selling price.
The prepaid research and income, I said research costs would be expensed but as hadn’t happened yet would be treated as a receivable until then. The non refundable deposit from the government I said was deferred income and couldn’t be recognised as revenue until control of the vaccine has passed over as it likely had value to other parties.
The legal provision I said they should recognise a provision of 7m and disclose and contingent liability of 6m. I said that the fact they they made the offer indicated there was a likely outflow of benefits. I didn’t talk about constructive obligations though. Not entirely convinced I got that right.
Overall I think it was a pretty reasonable paper. It felt like the examiner was trying to give everyone a decent chance of passing without making it too easy. Good luck in July everyone!
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