SBR*** ACCA P2 June 2018 Exam was.. Instant Poll and comments ***

Roll on strategic reporting... how do I start!

Hi..off topic I by mistake shaded a wrong desk number and then cancelled corrected it! Its fine right.as in my results wont be mixed up with the one whose number i shaded right? Although i corrected it

Hi all How did we find it? I thought the question 1 was kinda straight forward - I had two subs to consolidate (80% for alston and 70% reduced to 60% for Plymouth).I got a negative GW for Alston(28m)I believe. Impairment was tested a lot, I had the PPE as impaired by 14m. The only thing that stumped me was the NCI movement of the disposal and finance instrument. I showed the instrumerment at FV at 49m with the gain to OCI? Q3 was okay - more essay than numbers. I didn't like the look of Q2 so picked Q4..interested to know other thoughts? Sean

@seannyd said: Hi all How did we find it? I thought the question 1 was kinda straight forward - I had two subs to consolidate (80% for alston and 70% reduced to 60% for Plymouth).I got a negative GW for Alston(28m)I believe. Impairment was tested a lot, I had the PPE as impaired by 14m. The only thing that stumped me was the NCI movement of the disposal and finance instrument. I showed the instrumerment at FV at 49m with the gain to OCI? Q3 was okay - more essay than numbers. I didn't like the look of Q2 so picked Q4..interested to know other thoughts? Sean

Yes u r correct impairemt was 14 The financial instr yes it had to be 49 However hw was ur adjusting entry for investment properties?

I put you can capitalise the 2m for legal fees, however there was an impairment indicator as the FVLCTS was lower than the CV...anyone else put something similar?

@mumbaikar said: Hi..off topic I by mistake shaded a wrong desk number and then cancelled corrected it! Its fine right.as in my results wont be mixed up with the one whose number i shaded right? Although i corrected it

Yes I'm sure it's fine

i though question 1 was ok - alot less adjustments than in practise and still nicely had two subs at the end of the year. but section b's i found really ambiguous (did 3&4) and also a little frustrated that defined benefit pensions, share based payments & foreign exchange didn't come up at all. so most of my answers are just waffle and with the mistakes i always make on consolidation i'm not sure i will have hit 50% It seemed to focus on impairments & revenue recognition & classification and half the syllabus didn't get tested which was frustrating as i worked really hard to have at least some understanding of all the chapters but some much focus on a few areas won't have allowed me to score high

I found the whole of section A quite good and straightforward, I was so happy to get a SOFP. I have not sat this exam since December 2013, so 4.5 years ago due to doing other papers and having 2 breaks from studying. However, I am now off to revise for tomorrow's P5 exam. I found section B difficult, but that is my fault as I had 2 deaths in my family in the last 6 or 7 weeks plus work commitment, financial year end etc so it was quite difficult to study for 2 papers like this. I will keep studying until the results come out. No idea how I will prepare for the strategic version from September, I hope it will still have decent amount of calculations, although I know it will be less numerical than it was under P2 advanced corporate reporting.

I am very curious how students will do in the very first sitting of the strategic paper (new P2), how the pass rate will turn out. The average P2 passrate being around 50%, half of the students who sat today's exam will have to resit under the new strategic paper. I guess those will have to use the P2 opentuition study material and practise writing answers to "Explain" etc.

Impairment was 14 which went to RE. I got a Partial disposal gain of 1.6. I put it at amortised cost of 41.6 8% rental 12% effective because it was collecting cash flow and eventually sell asset. Think you are correct though. Section B was a write off, waffled on about standards but nothing flowed! Roll on Strategic paper!

One of my friend has done all the workings of SOFP however he was not able to make the statement which he thought he will make at the end. Will he be penalised for not making the statement?

Q2 looked horrible so I picked up Q3 and Q4, For Q1 a) impairment on PPE 14m, Financial instrument at 49, Share consideration for sale of 10% stake in Financial assets, goodwill (bargain purchase) negative but 23m (I deducted the whole adjustment for contingent liability of 10m). Q1 b) I am not sure anymore what it was about :S Q1 c) Loans not disclosed: I mentioned outstanding balances disclosures under IAS 24 related parties, and potential conflicts of interests in case the loans were moved from one company to another affecting results and bonuses of the Parent. Q4 a(i) and (ii) for 15 marks: I generated few valid points for Historic vs fair value measures but dunno know how many of the 17 marks available you can reasonably get there. Q4 b for 8 marks: I discussed the Highest and best use available under IFRS 13 for Non-financial assets to get to the 4.8 m evaluation of new Land Despite my initial choice Q3 was challenging: Q3 a: I assumed it was a finance lease so the company should have recognized the asset at the NIL value. Q3 b: for the Patent dispute I first started with the PIRATE Criteria for recognition of the new potential intangible under IAS 38. The A (Ability to sell use) is doubtful because of the claim (and it's not clear from the paper who is there is any ground for the claim); however considering the attempt for settlement the company realize that there is an obligation therefore a provision should have created for 15m and the asset not recognized. Q3 c: the 2 non refundable payments done and received to be classified as Deferred asset and deferred income (IAS 20 doesn't apply)

I'm sure I opted to do the Int Variant and ended up with the UK one. I'm disappointed.

All I can say is that I'm glad I had an early night! It will be Strategic Business Reporting for me in September or December ...

Was the difference in net assets list in negative for Alston? I got something like -6 I guess. And was the goodwill for Plymouth somewhere close to 70?

why financial instrument in 1a has to be at 49 ? i thought it had to be at amortised cost ? it was kept for the cash flow so it kept until maturity and then sell ? it passed the business model test surely.

Do you get any marks for the correct structure (working 1) and adding figures from the pro forma in the question to the consolidated statement? Thanks

i did that as well. i think it has to be at amortised cost right ? no ? because it was kept for cash flow.

1. Thank GOD its a Group SOFP with two straight forward SUB with one minor disposal of 10% 2. Got around 8 workings including the 5 main workings 3. Yep negative goodwill for 1 sub but the figure im not sure i think -23 or -28 somthing like that. 4. When choosing question 2/3/4...no time to read q2/3 too long...i jumped to start q4 - straight forward scenarios but answered with some general knowledge & some minor knowledge of the corresponding IAS/IFRS and with some on the job knowledge (logical accounting) 5.Then look at q2/3....i selected q3 no choice it was less hard. Again applied general knowledge, minor knowledge on the acccounting stds, and knowledge acquired on job 6. Hope to get 50 but it all depends... 7.However, i am already starting to revise IAS/IFRS and continue practise consolidation/cashflow till results are out. 8. If pass stop revision, if fail continue revising till september exams.... 9. Best of luck for all of you - hope you pass with 50 10. See you soon- goodbye

For question 1 the disposal of 10% by share for share exchange, how is it suppose to be dealt? Normally it is cash.. I did credit equity(new shares at fv) and credit nci. Both these amounts added to other componenta of equity Correct ir wrong? And for the net asset computation. The contingent liability was nt shown so we include at the date of acquisition which was 5 million. The question said the contingent liability was settled at the reporting Dat for 10.5 mill or something. My doubt is do we put 10.5 million in net asset computation at the reporting date?

I went in with some hope. Came out blank. Now misrable knowing I will have to do another resit ?

what it did was i did not do anything to the share capital because it did not involve the parent share whatsoever. you use the share to work out the consideration and stick the gain into the OCE. that what i thought also about the contingent liabilities but i dont think anyone agreed with me yet.

i thought the paper was all right. Nothing too complicated ? no ?

I feel the consolidation was fair, i am really stressed about the discussion questions thou, like i am not sure if i was right or wrong in my answers and all the topics i had labored on and i was really ready to attack did not even make an appearance....

Could someone please explain the final part of Question 3? I'm not sure I remember what the question asked, it was regarding the CRO and the prepayment of the contract.

Well there is no gain or loss for disposal computation coz the control wasn't lost.. I didn't put the 10.5 mill at reporting date Q2 was bad... But overall I gave it my all

why would the parent give it own shares when it transfers the ownership of the sub ? hmmm maybe i didnt read it properly :O

@sajini said: For question 1 the disposal of 10% by share for share exchange, how is it suppose to be dealt? Normally it is cash.. I did credit equity(new shares at fv) and credit nci. Both these amounts added to other componenta of equity Correct ir wrong? And for the net asset computation. The contingent liability was nt shown so we include at the date of acquisition which was 5 million. The question said the contingent liability was settled at the reporting Dat for 10.5 mill or something. My doubt is do we put 10.5 million in net asset computation at the reporting date?

For the 10% disposal Dr. Investment Cr oce Cr nci For the contingent the 10.5 will not be recognised in the yr end as it was after yr end and the 5 will be used to deduct net asset at acquisition and reportinh

how did you deal with the share exchange btw ? did you need to adjust the share capital ?

Ohh you are right Tom I.messed up