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- March 10, 2018 at 7:41 am #441975
Yeh I think with money market hedge the cost was 1907 something. And with the forward rate for shillings I thinku had to use interest rate parity. I used the deposit rates for shilling and dollar and Exponented the fraction on 0.25 power for 3 months. I got 14.11 as fwd rate. Anyone else got these answers?
Any one knows what rates to use for interest rate parity? Deposit or borrow?March 10, 2018 at 7:54 am #441981I got an answer of 14.13. I used the “Borrow Rates” as the question clearly stated that the company was short of cash and would strictly have to borrow funds.
Because of this statement I used 10 as the spot rate instead of 10.20 for the money market hedge and used the borrow rates when calculating IRP.
March 10, 2018 at 8:06 am #441982The exam was a totally unexpected one. I sat there and it took me a good 5 mins to accept the fact that the examiner screwed with us LOL. I started with section A and B and spent a good hour answering what I could and moving on to section C.
Q31
Equity Vs Business Finance.Calculated the Theretical ex rights by calculating how many new shares had been issued 2500/5 = 500 new shares. This making total number of shares 3000. Calculated market values by multiplying 2500 * EX DIV PRICE and 500 * discounted price. Divided MV by number of shares to get theoretical ex rights of if I remember correctly somewhere between 4.60 and 4.70.
Moving on, calculated the Eps which was basically Profit after tax over number of shares. For equity, the number of shares increased giving EPS OF 0.33 and for debt finance, interest increased this affecting Profit after tax and giving an EPS of 0.35.
The new share price was simply PE RATIO that was given multiplied by EPS. I guessed this as I remembered doing this in a past paper.
In terms of which is better, I used the debt equity ratio and also spoke about other non financial matters.
For Islamic Finance, I spoke about Mudharaba as a alternative to equity and Sukuk for loan notes.
Q32
Multiplied the probabilities by the cash flows for each year. Multiplied by discount factor. Compared NPV to investment to see if it was financially acceptable. I got a positive result, so accepted investment.
Struggled with part where it asked about NPV being zero. Didn’t spend too much time on it as it was only 1 mark.
For highest probability, basically selected 0.5 from year 1 and 0.6 in year 2.
The last part required you to talk about
only TWO of the 3 mentioned concepts.I selected simulation and spoke about how such methods are used in times of uncertainty in assisting to forcecast. Etc gave some advantages/ disadvantages.
Lastly, spoke about risk adjusted discount rates where I mainly spoke about CAPM and specific discount rates talking through the whole process of ungearing and regearing.
PLEASE LET ME KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS.
Fingers crossed for a pass 🙂
March 10, 2018 at 8:48 am #441987@studyfreaksy said:
Yeh I think with money market hedge the cost was 1907 something. And with the forward rate for shillings I thinku had to use interest rate parity. I used the deposit rates for shilling and dollar and Exponented the fraction on 0.25 power for 3 months. I got 14.11 as fwd rate. Anyone else got these answers?
Any one knows what rates to use for interest rate parity? Deposit or borrow?Not sure if this was the same question but did you have rates quoted as v2 – v3? This threw me as I’ve not seen them quoted like this before.
March 10, 2018 at 8:51 am #441988Sounds different
March 10, 2018 at 9:02 am #441992I got 2.8%
I thought 5 years ago would mean the current year would be year 6 so used n=5I thought this might be one of the few things I might have got right. What a tough paper! Will be doing it all again in June :o(
March 10, 2018 at 9:11 am #441997@lukman94 said:
Q31
Equity Vs Business Finance.Calculated the Theretical ex rights by calculating how many new shares had been issued 2500/5 = 500 new shares. This making total number of shares 3000. Calculated market values by multiplying 2500 * EX DIV PRICE and 500 * discounted price. Divided MV by number of shares to get theoretical ex rights of if I remember correctly somewhere between 4.60 and 4.70.
Moving on, calculated the Eps which was basically Profit after tax over number of shares. For equity, the number of shares increased giving EPS OF 0.33 and for debt finance, interest increased this affecting Profit after tax and giving an EPS of 0.35.
The new share price was simply PE RATIO that was given multiplied by EPS. I guessed this as I remembered doing this in a past paper.
In terms of which is better, I used the debt equity ratio and also spoke about other non financial matters.
For Islamic Finance, I spoke about Mudharaba as a alternative to equity and Sukuk for loan notes.
Q32
Multiplied the probabilities by the cash flows for each year. Multiplied by discount factor. Compared NPV to investment to see if it was financially acceptable. I got a positive result, so accepted investment.
Fingers crossed for a pass 🙂
I got price as 4.83 for the issue price but can’t remember how I calculated it. I also got 414 new shares byt I think mine was wrong.
Also got positive Npv so accepted. But I recalculate my PE ratio again can’t remember how but the one they gave was an average for other companies I thought but not sure now.
I’m a little worried now. Can’t face studying this again
March 10, 2018 at 9:15 am #441998Don’t worry. Let’s hope for the best.
March 10, 2018 at 10:14 am #442020@lukman94 said:
The exam was a totally unexpected one. I sat there and it took me a good 5 mins to accept the fact that the examiner screwed with us LOL. I started with section A and B and spent a good hour answering what I could and moving on to section C.Q31
Equity Vs Business Finance.Calculated the Theretical ex rights by calculating how many new shares had been issued 2500/5 = 500 new shares. This making total number of shares 3000. Calculated market values by multiplying 2500 * EX DIV PRICE and 500 * discounted price. Divided MV by number of shares to get theoretical ex rights of if I remember correctly somewhere between 4.60 and 4.70.
Moving on, calculated the Eps which was basically Profit after tax over number of shares. For equity, the number of shares increased giving EPS OF 0.33 and for debt finance, interest increased this affecting Profit after tax and giving an EPS of 0.35.
The new share price was simply PE RATIO that was given multiplied by EPS. I guessed this as I remembered doing this in a past paper.
In terms of which is better, I used the debt equity ratio and also spoke about other non financial matters.
For Islamic Finance, I spoke about Mudharaba as a alternative to equity and Sukuk for loan notes.
Q32
Multiplied the probabilities by the cash flows for each year. Multiplied by discount factor. Compared NPV to investment to see if it was financially acceptable. I got a positive result, so accepted investment.
Struggled with part where it asked about NPV being zero. Didn’t spend too much time on it as it was only 1 mark.
For highest probability, basically selected 0.5 from year 1 and 0.6 in year 2.
The last part required you to talk about
only TWO of the 3 mentioned concepts.I selected simulation and spoke about how such methods are used in times of uncertainty in assisting to forcecast. Etc gave some advantages/ disadvantages.
Lastly, spoke about risk adjusted discount rates where I mainly spoke about CAPM and specific discount rates talking through the whole process of ungearing and regearing.
PLEASE LET ME KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS.
Fingers crossed for a pass 🙂
TERP Was same. But I got EPS of around .41 and .45, as the earnings had to be after expansion. Recalculated the earnings divided by new no. of shares based on equity or debt finance. For last bit, I compared the debt equity ratio with the industry standards and commented on what could be better with either options. Even i wrote sukuk and mudarhba..could only rem those two.
March 10, 2018 at 10:18 am #442024Yes so for the EPS after expansion using rights was 1000/3000. 1000 being the Profit after tax and 3000 (2500 old shares + 500 new share).
Expansion through debt does not affect the amount of shares. It only affects the Profit after tax because finance costs increases.
I hope the above makes sense.
March 10, 2018 at 10:20 am #442025March 10, 2018 at 10:40 am #442035For the EPS, did u increase the pbit? It said that with either source of finance, the 2m expansion would result in an increase in PBIT by 20 % my new Pbit in both cases was 1916.4.
(1597/100 x 120)I used that as a starting figure for both debt n equity funded expansion.
Then with equity i recalculated PAT, keeping the interest of 315 as same and applying 22 % on PBT. Then calculated PAT. EPS = revised PAT / 3000 shares
For debt I took 1916.4 as PBIT, subtracted interest of 475 (315 plus 160) calculated new PAT and divided on existing shares (2500) to arrive at the new EPS.
got a better EPS with debt. But debt/equity ratio messed up so in analysis part I wrote to choose equity as it results in a reasonable debt/equity ratio.
March 10, 2018 at 10:59 am #442042How about the market value of debt mcq. The nominal was 100. 5/100 interest and redeemed at par plus 10 percent premium. Tax was 20%
Did anyone deduct tax from interest?
What was ure MV?March 10, 2018 at 12:34 pm #442051OMG. I completely missed that out. Let’s hope I don’t lose much for not including that.
March 10, 2018 at 1:05 pm #442055The 2010 question is not really the same thing. It is on joint probability, just not on investment appraisal. What I have learnt from this exam is that you really have to 1. Know the syllabus inside out 2. Don’t rely on past papers/ revision kit 3. ACCA are a company who need resits to keep making profits!!
March 10, 2018 at 1:17 pm #442057March 10, 2018 at 1:24 pm #442058But u need to consider earnings after expansion too. Sales would change, tax amount would change. In case if debt sales, interest and tax would change. That’s why eps would be diff than current. As well as for debt n equity
March 10, 2018 at 1:25 pm #442059I got 1,98 amount. I got that exact amount in the choice when I calculated. So guessing it should be right.
March 10, 2018 at 1:32 pm #442061@studyfreaksy said:
For the EPS, did u increase the pbit? It said that with either source of finance, the 2m expansion would result in an increase in PBIT by 20 % my new Pbit in both cases was 1916.4.
(1597/100 x 120)I used that as a starting figure for both debt n equity funded expansion.
Then with equity i recalculated PAT, keeping the interest of 315 as same and applying 22 % on PBT. Then calculated PAT. EPS = revised PAT / 3000 shares
For debt I took 1916.4 as PBIT, subtracted interest of 475 (315 plus 160) calculated new PAT and divided on existing shares (2500) to arrive at the new EPS.
got a better EPS with debt. But debt/equity ratio messed up so in analysis part I wrote to choose equity as it results in a reasonable debt/equity ratio.
I got same figures. Hoping I did enough to secure a pass.
March 10, 2018 at 1:44 pm #442063Yes I did take all into account. Just that I didn’t inflate the PBIT by 20 percent.
March 10, 2018 at 1:48 pm #442064You’ll only lose 1 mark. The remaining will be marked with that mistake taken into account.
March 10, 2018 at 2:55 pm #442074Yes, got the same PBIT inflated due to new expansion.
March 10, 2018 at 3:27 pm #442082Hi for q31, we can go either ways about it right with or without the 20% increase, because that will reflect at the end of next year, if we do the expansion at the beginning, same profits remain for higher capital ratio, they just stated after expansion, so it isn’t clear whether they were referring to immediately or after a 20% hike.
Just my opinion, I had worked it out originally with the 20% hike but then the Market price would be affected, because a year down the lane the whole impact of rights issue is wiped off i.e loss in market value immediately after expansion is lost, which made me rework with existing profits.
Just my thoughts. Hope I get some marks for it.
March 10, 2018 at 4:44 pm #442092Just a small tip when using numbers always use the cell rather then right the number. So if you calculated the PBIT and used that cell in all other calculations where you needed the PBIT. That way if you need to change the PBIT all your other calculations will fall into place automatically.
Hope that doesn’t confuse anyone.
March 10, 2018 at 10:22 pm #442112I think this is the hardest paper ever? Some of the MCQs have matching answers and very difficult to pick right one even with good conceptual study.
In section C cost of capital the big part of syllabus was almost ignored even the weighted in MCQs was about 4 to 6 marks. What makes things more disaster is investment appraisal question on joint probabilities…. almost 14 marks revolve around joint probabilities in sub parts of the question. Simulation is a broader term I focued on sensitivity analysis to answer this part and changing/varying project cash flows to try to answer simulation. I am not expert but adjusted discount factor is P4 stuff? F9 is more focused adjustment for business risk….asset beta gear and de-gear question.
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