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- June 7, 2017 at 1:31 pm #391313
@feroz1234 said:
Which option did you guys pick for inventory valuation or something.Was it A which ended along the lines of bringing it to its present location and condition.
or option C bring inventory to its saleable condition?
A. Bringing inventory to present location. Not saleable.
June 7, 2017 at 1:33 pm #391314@nataliam2 said:
I say yes. they both were discontinued to me. One was major line of business and the other one was major geographical area.I also chose them both.
June 7, 2017 at 1:37 pm #391315@feroz1234 said:
Which option did you guys pick for inventory valuation or something.Was it A which ended along the lines of bringing it to its present location and condition.
or option C bring inventory to its saleable condition?
I selected cost plus to complete and selling cost was smth like 166 per 100 unit, I guess finally gave 14300 some like that as answer.
June 7, 2017 at 1:44 pm #391318Feroz are you sure?
June 7, 2017 at 1:45 pm #391319100% A
June 7, 2017 at 1:58 pm #391324I picked A for inventory valuation.
For discounted operations i believe the second one was the only discounted one or first but defo not both one was restructuring.
June 7, 2017 at 2:02 pm #391325What about presentation of discontinued operations? there was answer something like that analysis of profit/loss have to be in notes to FS. Anyone remember that question?
June 7, 2017 at 2:04 pm #391326In relation to if dep’n should be capitalised as part of cost of constructing a new asset, what did you guys choose?
Also i picked all 3 goodwill patent and licence one had infinite life – The option being all 3 should be tested for impairment yearly.
With regards to the mcq on enhancing characteristics of Financial statements what did you guys pick?
June 7, 2017 at 2:15 pm #391328@feroz1234 said:
Which option did you guys pick for inventory valuation or something.Was it A which ended along the lines of bringing it to its present location and condition.
or option C bring inventory to its saleable condition?
The question is very tricky but I was able to figure it out…..to present condition and location doesn’t mean the inventory is in working condition for intendended use……..Salelable condition is the correct answer as it indicates that the asset is ready for its intended purpose.
June 7, 2017 at 2:19 pm #391329Inventory shouldn’t include selling costs so saleable condition means that it would be included
June 7, 2017 at 2:25 pm #391331@surajnair said:
A. Bringing inventory to present location. Not saleable.yes to present condition but doesn’t me the asset IS ready for intended use or sale…..According to the standard….purchase cost, duties and all other cost incurred in bringing the asset to “condition for intended use or intended sale” key word
present condition n location could be sea port and additional cost may still need to b incurred in transporting them to the warehouse….hope this helps
June 7, 2017 at 2:28 pm #391333@feroz1234 said:
In relation to if dep’n should be capitalised as part of cost of constructing a new asset, what did you guys choose?Also i picked all 3 goodwill patent and licence one had infinite life – The option being all 3 should be tested for impairment yearly.
With regards to the mcq on enhancing characteristics of Financial statements what did you guys pick?
For enhancing selected understandability, comparability, timeliness verifiability
Related Impairments, I have selected goodwill, indefinite life
Also value of patent post allocation of impairments loss, I have apportioned only patent and license after adjusting for goodwill as property had same value
June 7, 2017 at 2:33 pm #391337@23123fd said:
Inventory shouldn’t include selling costs so saleable condition means that it would be includedTo saleable condition may include for example primary packiging of an item they are not saleable until they have been properly packaged….selling cost may include advertising cost, sales commission, etc
June 7, 2017 at 2:36 pm #391338@hayor said:
To saleable condition may include for example primary packiging of an item they are not saleable until they have been properly packaged….selling cost may include advertising cost, sales commission, etcno.selling costs means “costs to sell”
do we include it?No.June 7, 2017 at 2:37 pm #391341@laughingcoffin said:
Multiple choicePs questions not in order
1. FV of Investment $300,000
FV of NCI $80,000
Net Assets
Stated Capital $150,000
Retained Earning $150,000Answer – Goodwill $80,000
2. What would be reviewed for impairment
Answer – Goodwill and Patent with indefinite life
3. Which qualitative characteristic is linked to IAS 8 changes in accounting policy, estimates and errors
Answer – Comparability
4. Which one of the following is correct according to IAS 8
Answer – Changes in depreciation and changes in inventory valuation (FIFO) would be treated prospectivly
5. What is the definition of Inventory according to IAS 2
Answer – purchase cost, conversion cost and costs incurred to bring the asset to its present condition and location
The other option is wrong i believe
purchase cost, conversion cost and costs incurred to bring the asset to a saleable condition
6. Which of the following would be treated as discountinued under IFRS 5
A. Plant which stops buying and selling car parts
B. They only have one plant the produces rims. They buy another plant to produce rims
Answer – A only
7. State the Enhancing Characteristics of Financial Information
A. Substance
B. Prudence
C. Materiality
D. Timely, verifiable, comparable & understandableAnswer – D
8. Basic eps 9mil ÷ 10 mil = .90
Diluted earnings
5mil × % × 70 %
If anyone knows this % pls tell meDiluted Shares
5mil ÷ 500 × 250 shares = 2,500,000Answer = .74
Thats all the MCQ i can remember sorry guys
Change in inventory valuation is a change in accounting policy and should be done retrospectively an example is Q32 (a) Cost of sale 19200 and changed from FIFO to AVCO and due to the change in policy opening inventory increased by 300 and closing increased by 450 which will make adjusted cost of sales to be 19050 (19200 + 300 – 450)…..others u totally concur….Goodluck to us all!
June 7, 2017 at 2:51 pm #391346@aaradhya33 said:
no.selling costs means “costs to sell”
do we include it?No.There is difference between saleable condition and selling cost or cost to sell……saleable is an example of intended purpose…….intended purpose could be to sell an item or to keep an asset for production or for hiring to others….all cost incurred in bringing the asset to such condition for their intended purpose will always form part of the cost……but it’s okay I agree with you…..it changes nothing…..let’s just hope for the best!
June 7, 2017 at 2:53 pm #391349@hayor said:
yes to present condition but doesn’t me the asset IS ready for intended use or sale…..According to the standard….purchase cost, duties and all other cost incurred in bringing the asset to “condition for intended use or intended sale” key wordpresent condition n location could be sea port and additional cost may still need to b incurred in transporting them to the warehouse….hope this helps
Hayor, wish i could share the picture here. I just referred back to bpp text.page number 235(june2017 edition). It clearly says cost of inventories consists of all costs of:
Purchase
Cost of conversion
Other cost incurred in bringing the inventories to their present ‘location and condition’.June 7, 2017 at 3:02 pm #391353@surajnair said:
Hayor, wish i could share the picture here. I just referred back to bpp text.page number 235(june2017 edition). It clearly says cost of inventories consists of all costs of:
Purchase
Cost of conversion
Other cost incurred in bringing the inventories to their present ‘location and condition’.and where is the last part? “For intended use” i remember that definition even in my sleep…all these are carry forward knowledge from F3…..the definition in F7 are a bit fast forwarded cause they expect us to have known some prior to studying for F7…….that’s why i don’t advice people to take exemptions it’s better to start from the scratch…..anyways thanks man……success to us all….after all it changes nothing!
June 7, 2017 at 3:08 pm #391354Suraj that’s what I wanted to tell as well as that is what is said in the text book itself the examining team cannot ignore that , but it’s just my opininon
June 7, 2017 at 4:24 pm #39136720×7 b/f 30 Sep 20×7: 1400
Compare to this year 20×8: 4680 (assume)×26%= 1217
Overprovision: 1400-1217=183
PBT: 4680 (my answer)
Income tax expense: 1400-183+390=1607
Profit for the year: 3073
Other comprehensive income:
Gain on revaluation of property: 3500
Fair value adjustment-equity instrument: 200
Total comprehensive income: 6773Not sure about it, revaluation is at the end of the year right? Do we need to charge extra depreciation to COS? I didn’t charge.
June 7, 2017 at 5:06 pm #391403@yijiayap said:
20×7 b/f 30 Sep 20×7: 1400
Compare to this year 20×8: 4680 (assume)×26%= 1217
Overprovision: 1400-1217=183
PBT: 4680 (my answer)
Income tax expense: 1400-183+390=1607
Profit for the year: 3073
Other comprehensive income:
Gain on revaluation of property: 3500
Fair value adjustment-equity instrument: 200
Total comprehensive income: 6773Not sure about it, revaluation is at the end of the year right? Do we need to charge extra depreciation to COS? I didn’t charge.
yes I think you must.
becayse only depreciation charged was for the historic cost.
and for the extra increase in cost of $3.5m ,it should be depreciated over 20 years.Thus,175k of extra depn should be charged to COS because it has not been included in the calculation.June 7, 2017 at 5:25 pm #391440However I think it was also mentioned additional depreciation was to charged to revaluation reserve.
June 7, 2017 at 7:18 pm #391553I felt the same. I felt like i left things out because it wasnt as complex as most past exam questions i practiced
June 7, 2017 at 8:07 pm #391572@surajnair said:
I dont think you have to proportionate it aaradhya. It was a sale from subsidiary to parent.you have to deduct the entire unrealised profit from retained earnings. Which would be 6k. Im prettyy sure about itIts 3600 coz the question stated what will we remove from the parents RE so due to sub’s selling to parent
PURP goes to both parent and NCI
so from parents we remove 60% of 6000 which gives 3600June 7, 2017 at 8:13 pm #391575@feroz1234 said:
Did anyone choose any Answer A’s for the MCQ’S on revenue recognition question 25-30?When retained earnings increase we credit them and when they decrease we debit them
In 20×2 they decreased
And 20×3 they increased
So answer is c - AuthorPosts
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