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- December 7, 2016 at 2:01 am #354801
Didn’t we have to do a PV calc for def consideration? x 1/1.08 something I thought?
December 7, 2016 at 2:17 am #354803Andyt: I seem to have similar format like yours. But there is one thing I’m not sure. The increase in FV of inventory I did not add up to the Net Assets Acquired due to LCM concept. Not sure if it is like that or note.
December 7, 2016 at 2:44 am #354807Hi mike, if the fair value of Subsidiary`s inventory were greater than its book value @ acquisition, i know the difference is included in NA of S@DOA while calculating g/will.
what are the relevant accounting entries if the inventory is not sold during the year? and 2) if it is sold in the year? thanks in advance.December 7, 2016 at 2:54 am #354808I found this on the open tuition forum.
Hi mike, if the fair value of Subsidiary`s inventory were greater than its book value @ acquisition, i know the difference is included in NA of S@DOA while calculating g/will.
what are the relevant accounting entries if the inventory is not sold during the year? and 2) if it is sold in the year? thanks in advance.Answer:
No accounting affect if it is sold before the year end – cost of sales will include the fair value adjustment of the inventoryIf it’s not sold by the year end, the inventory still held by the subsidiary that was under-valued as at the date of acquisition will be valued at its fair value at the year end
Guess that resolves the argument about the goodwill calculation.
December 7, 2016 at 5:11 am #354814Neither did I. My 13 marks are gone.
December 7, 2016 at 5:15 am #354815@sherrydada123 said:
I never prorated them into 9 months oh god.neither did I. ??
December 7, 2016 at 5:39 am #354830@samangika said:
neither did I. ??Don’t worry you’ll lose only 1-2 marks max for that error.
December 7, 2016 at 5:52 am #354833It was Okay, Hoping for the best
Wish you all BEST OF LUCK
December 7, 2016 at 6:07 am #354835I have doubted that in Q31 Note 1 The inventory of 800,000 has fair value 1,000,000. So we need to adjust to fair value ? From IAS 2, inventories carried at lower of cost and NRV. I also did the exercise at the back of the text book, and there was similar scenario about fair value of inventory, and it was stated that Inventory carried at Fair value which is lower than cost 20m, coming this point they adjusted 20m to goodwill. This case Fair value < Cost… However, in our exam, Cost < FV. I treated FV as Selling price, hence I did not adjust inventory in Net Asset of Subsidiary. Another part, Consolidated P&L … in term of share in associate, we need to take profit of associate as I remembered 2.4m * 25% = 600,000 and the dividend received from associate is 200,000. Should we take 2,400,000-200,000 and then * 25% or take 600,000 – 200,000 … How about dividend received from Associate anyone consolidated it ? I also did an exercise at the back of the text book and there was similar scenario as well, and they stated that the Profit Already deducted the amount of dividend paid, hence they just took that Profit * Percentage own in associate.
December 7, 2016 at 6:11 am #354836Marker of ACCA also commented that the candidates have not scored well on long question (20 marks) of ratio. They failed to compare and comment the variance of the ratio. They just calculated the ratio and leave it out.
December 7, 2016 at 7:50 am #354884yeah i got the same !
December 7, 2016 at 7:53 am #354885@flapper84 : yeah i got 21500 !!
December 7, 2016 at 8:25 am #354888Hey can someone please tell me i subtracted purp from COS calculations and forgot to consolidate subsidiaries investment income how many marks would be deducted????anyone?
December 7, 2016 at 8:34 am #354893Hey can someone please tell me i subtracted purp from COS calculations and forgot to consolidate subsidiaries investment income how many marks would be deducted????anyone please?
December 7, 2016 at 8:40 am #354908what was the answer for the average shares I used the 2m shares as shares before issue. and I circled A. was not very sure of my answer
December 7, 2016 at 8:52 am #354931I’m still not seeing your argument for not deducting it, the purchases are going to cost 10% more to you post acquisition so you need to add that 4k on somewhere. If not COS then presumably you added it into overheads instead?
If you didn’t take it off anywhere then your OP Margin and ROCE margin are going to be a more than double what I got and your answers are going to be a lot different to mine.
Either way I still think your idea on this is incorrect. If it was a discount whereby only after spending x amount was the discount applied then that might have some merit but even then that’s still going to reduce direct costs even if its isn’t deemed to directly reduce the products themselves. I think you may have just over thought it
December 7, 2016 at 8:58 am #354933@sara18 said:
@flapper84 : yeah i got 21500 !!Hi Sara, there is one word in the question that will determine whether we calculated the correct goodwill calculation. Unfortunately it doesn’t look good for us because a few others are sure they have calculated it correctly and have a different answer.
I will try to copy out the question and will show the two different interpretations:
Calculation of the parents consideration:
60% of the shares of the subsidiary by way of a share exchange of 3 shares in the parent for every 5 shares acquired (I think we all agree on this part that the consideration is 5400 x whatever the share price of the parent was at the date of acquisition)
In addition, the parent will pay $1.62 per share acquired/issued (this is the word we are all split on) in one years time. The rate of interest is 8% (I think we all agree we had to discount the value by 1/1.08)The good news is whoever is wrong will only lose 1 mark for it
December 7, 2016 at 9:03 am #354935@saadimran786 said:
Hey can someone please tell me i subtracted purp from COS calculations and forgot to consolidate subsidiaries investment income how many marks would be deducted????anyone?Maybe 2/3 marks
December 7, 2016 at 9:08 am #354936Are you sure?I’m pretty tensed about this
@flapper84 said:
Maybe 2/3 marksare you sure I’m very tensed about it?
December 7, 2016 at 9:09 am #354937I didn’t study anything for my paper. It went horribly. I have two more left and a day to study for both. I will pass the remaining. I must.
December 7, 2016 at 9:33 am #354940what was the approach to the MCQ where the consolidated ppe was required and a plant of carrying amt 70000 was disposed on 1/something/20×7
December 7, 2016 at 9:40 am #354941I only had 2 A’s in mcqs
And almost 3 D’s. Even 2nd mcq was D if i am correct.December 7, 2016 at 9:44 am #354942In mcq of impairment loss what we take higher or lower of Caring value and recoverable amount ?
December 7, 2016 at 9:51 am #354945@786hammad786 said:
In mcq of impairment loss what we take higher or lower of Caring value and recoverable amount ?we take the lower.
December 7, 2016 at 10:05 am #354947Hello,
On the g/w calculation, I remeber that i was double checking should we take acquired from S shares or given shares (Parent gave), and i am sure we should have taken the acquired shares as that was said in question… “1.62 for every share acquired”
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