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- March 10, 2017 at 11:37 am #377357
@amalhotra said:
Yeah!I see – I can’t remember what I got for that one but I remember putting 1,200 for a similar question. Maybe it’s the same one.
If it’s the same one, the value of the shares at death replaces the original cost. Then you have to see how much between the 40,000 (I think) she received and the cost of the shares at death which was 38,800. As she sold the shares for more than it originally cost, the difference becomes automatically chargeable which is 1,200.
At least that was what I did.
I remember trying to work out one with the indexation allowance from the share pool but my figures didn’t match up to any answer. I guessed 24,000 for that one.
March 10, 2017 at 11:41 am #377359For the trading profit question, were you meant to take the proceeds and then debit the legal fees in sale, purchase and capital allowances but add the loan?
For the income tax part on part b, I added the salary and property income as this is part of the income tax computation, is this correct?
March 10, 2017 at 11:49 am #377362@faze50 said:
For the trading profit question, were you meant to take the proceeds and then debit the legal fees in sale, purchase and capital allowances but add the loan?For the income tax part on part b, I added the salary and property income as this is part of the income tax computation, is this correct?
For her income i took 7 months of partnership profit and split this 50:50 then the last 5 months i took out the salary for the other partner and split the profit 60:40. then I add the profit income but deducted the £4250 allowance from it.
For the loan i cant remember 100% but I deducted the interest as an expense as it was in relation to the trade
March 10, 2017 at 11:50 am #377363@faze50 said:
For the trading profit question, were you meant to take the proceeds and then debit the legal fees in sale, purchase and capital allowances but add the loan?For the income tax part on part b, I added the salary and property income as this is part of the income tax computation, is this correct?
Hey, Trading profit – I pretty much had to do it as I would a profit and loss account. I literally took away anything that were expenses and added anything that was income. I wasn’t too sure on the loan capital though but I ended up just adding it to income which was probably wrong. The interest paid on it I put as an expense. I also took away capital allowance which I also think is wrong..
I realise there is a difference between ‘Trading profits’ and ‘adjusted taxable trading profits’ which is where being selective about the fees and capital allowances come into play. They were just asking for the trading profits.
What I got confused on was whether to add the capital allowance as otherwise I didn’t get why the info was there?
Seemed like a lot to do though for a 4 mark question…..
March 10, 2017 at 12:15 pm #377370Sophie- I didn’t realise the Partnership was time apportioned, I forgot about that! I took the salary all as one (£4000)and then added all the property income. That’s probably wrong I guess. I didn’t deduct any personal allowance as it was greater than 121200. I added the loan which I don’t think was correct.
Heychi – I also did the full capital allowance working snf deduced it from the proceeds and legal fees on sale and purchase etc.
Yeah, it’s like they had all the capital allowances info, legal fees in sale, legal fees on acquisition and also enhancement costs, why would they be in the question if they don’t expect you to use them?!
I agree, it was a lot to do for 6 marks!
March 10, 2017 at 12:17 pm #377371The loan isn’t taxable income – it is capital and therefore i didn’t include it in the earnings.
March 10, 2017 at 12:54 pm #377378@sophiemuzz said:
The loan isn’t taxable income – it is capital and therefore i didn’t include it in the earnings.Yeah, I thought so. What did your proforma look like?
March 10, 2017 at 1:32 pm #377386Yeah I see what you mean, so what about the rest of the items?
March 10, 2017 at 1:36 pm #377389For the property business, i treated it as it was a business rather than capital as their business was property development so it should be treated as a trade. I cant remember exactly what legal fees etc I included, but I definitely deducted the capital allowances. from the profit. As it was a partnership as well rather than a company I also only included the business use in the capital allowances deduction – not sure if this is correct though
March 10, 2017 at 1:47 pm #377392I found the exam difficult in places as I had done the past papers the questions in section C were very different to anything practiced. I found the questions unclear to what they were requesting. I hope Ive done enough to pass. Sections A & B were ok & i found the VAT questions easy. The one about self assessment was odd though as it stated ‘may’. I found many of the questions were worded oddly & not clear enough so felt a few were guesses. What did people put for the inheritance one about death on different dates? April 2020 & April 2023? I think i messed this one up??
March 10, 2017 at 1:59 pm #377396@ak2401 said:
I found the exam difficult in places as I had done the past papers the questions in section C were very different to anything practiced. I found the questions unclear to what they were requesting. I hope Ive done enough to pass. Sections A & B were ok & i found the VAT questions easy. The one about self assessment was odd though as it stated ‘may’. I found many of the questions were worded oddly & not clear enough so felt a few were guesses. What did people put for the inheritance one about death on different dates? April 2020 & April 2023? I think i messed this one up??This was another one I confused myself on ha.
I ended up choosing B which i think was that the PET unused, then April and April.
I remember just getting confused in general with PET and CLT. I thought I was pretty solid on IHT so I’m not sure if it was exam pressure.I know CLT uses up the lifetime allowance straight away, but the PET only uses it up if the donor dies within 7 years right? or does it use it up straight away and then WHEN 7 years have passed the limit is increased back again? There was one question to choose between 105,000 and 55,000 of the lifetime allowance available.
March 10, 2017 at 2:03 pm #377399I always thought that PET dont use any of the £325,000 allowance but they do use the £3,000 annual allowances available
March 10, 2017 at 2:07 pm #377405@sophiemuzz said:
For the property business, i treated it as it was a business rather than capital as their business was property development so it should be treated as a trade. I cant remember exactly what legal fees etc I included, but I definitely deducted the capital allowances. from the profit. As it was a partnership as well rather than a company I also only included the business use in the capital allowances deduction – not sure if this is correct thoughSo you didn’t include the property income in your income tax liability then? That’s fine, no worries!
I did the exact same thing did capital allowances as well. It made sense to use the business use proportion as opposed to the private use and then deduct it. One of the cars qualified for fya and the other was main pool (business use)
Also for the lady question on the paper, property income, did you include the premises, I think it was for £50,000?
March 10, 2017 at 2:09 pm #377408@heychi said:
This was another one I confused myself on ha.I ended up choosing B which i think was that the PET unused, then April and April.
I remember just getting confused in general with PET and CLT. I thought I was pretty solid on IHT so I’m not sure if it was exam pressure.I know CLT uses up the lifetime allowance straight away, but the PET only uses it up if the donor dies within 7 years right? or does it use it up straight away and then WHEN 7 years have passed the limit is increased back again? There was one question to choose between 105,000 and 55,000 of the lifetime allowance available.
I think you ignore PETs when doing lifetime transfers, they only become relevant for inheritance tax payable on death.
March 10, 2017 at 2:25 pm #377422@faze50 said:
I think you ignore PETs when doing lifetime transfers, they only become relevant for inheritance tax payable on death.Phew! 😀
March 10, 2017 at 2:27 pm #377426I may be recalling it wrong but this was on a wedding gift to grandson? Therefore there was a £2,500 exemption available. If you went with the nearest answer to a straight 40% you would have been correct.
March 10, 2017 at 2:37 pm #377442@mikeat91 said:
I may be recalling it wrong but this was on a wedding gift to grandson? Therefore there was a £2,500 exemption available. If you went with the nearest answer to a straight 40% you would have been correct.Agh yes i remember this part, i removed the £2500 as well and then tapered the rest of it!
March 10, 2017 at 2:42 pm #377448@heychi said:
This was another one I confused myself on ha.I ended up choosing B which i think was that the PET unused, then April and April.
I remember just getting confused in general with PET and CLT. I thought I was pretty solid on IHT so I’m not sure if it was exam pressure.I know CLT uses up the lifetime allowance straight away, but the PET only uses it up if the donor dies within 7 years right? or does it use it up straight away and then WHEN 7 years have passed the limit is increased back again? There was one question to choose between 105,000 and 55,000 of the lifetime allowance available.
I got confused with that question too ’cause those gifts were from before 7 years. I picked one of the options that had the PET unused, i think it was C, cant remember.
For the other question i picked 105000
March 10, 2017 at 2:48 pm #377454@msarosh said:
I got confused with that question too ’cause those gifts were from before 7 years. I picked one of the options that had the PET unused, i think it was C, cant remember.For the other question i picked 105000
I picked 105,000 as well for that one as well 🙂 then for the other one I remember picking C then eventually choosing B lol. Ah well.
March 10, 2017 at 2:50 pm #377456for the other i put the PET first as they do use the Annual exemption allowance and then the others i did in chronological order as whatever came first, not sure of what choice this was though.
March 10, 2017 at 2:55 pm #377466@mikeat91 said:
I may be recalling it wrong but this was on a wedding gift to grandson? Therefore there was a £2,500 exemption available. If you went with the nearest answer to a straight 40% you would have been correct.I remember this one and yup it is £2500 straight out.
March 10, 2017 at 2:56 pm #377469What was the answer for the last and second last question for 33 in Section C?
March 10, 2017 at 3:05 pm #377481The second last question was about advantages of short life assets and the last question was about property income. For the last one you I included all the rent for the relevant year and then accrued the insurance. What did everyone do for the premium?
March 10, 2017 at 3:23 pm #377499I didn’t understand Q1,6 and 11 MCQ. i tried calculating the taper relief and i could not come up with the figure given on MCQ. I just hope I will pass!
March 10, 2017 at 3:28 pm #377505The second last was about Lunas income tax and last one was for POAs
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