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- March 8, 2018 at 5:00 am #441250
I agree mate that’s the point I was thinking. The question on transfer thing was the lamest ever question on this topic they were not even clarifying things in question with words like full capacity stuff just to miss guide the purpose was not testing knowledge coz it cannot be tested on such stuff. Whole ppr was a peice of sh*t for me. Transfrr thing eas very confusing not even fullfilling the purpose of transfer pricing with no post contributions and stuff. Tooo lame. Acca should stop putting such stuff on our heads atleast go with ur standard Acca plz
March 8, 2018 at 5:43 am #441255This paper was just too horrible….
I read and understood f5 just to be clueless during exams especially question 31/32 .
March 8, 2018 at 6:23 am #441259@vinxi said:
Even when division A had external demand it didn’t sell those units at 14 to be. As far as I remember n that was the point I notes that after fixed cost addition there was a too high price charged for transfer which couldn’t be acceptible when there’s no external demand also it cannot be considered as minimum too even it was more than divi b could get from external. But still rule is to add cost incurred when no external market n that includes fixed cost . That’s what is bothering me..God knows what was the correct minimum transfer price. Ppr was hell bad for me overall.Div A had always had external damand-200 000 units. They were selling at fool to it and only what they had extra up to their max capacity (350000)they were selling to div b. That was the problem- div b wanted more, bcs they were able to sell more and they were making bigger profit. Thats why they had external supplier at the same price. Q was if there was no such supplier, what would be min transfer price, but i think they meant fair for both div’s… you know- goal congruence, wats best for the company as a whole…
March 8, 2018 at 6:38 am #441260Maybe u re right. I don’t know why I put on seven. I was just thinking if it sells at 14 that would be way to more even it would be same as previous price when it had external market . And now when there is no external market it would prefer to sell at minimum price of 7 not at price which covers everything otherwise it will have all of the stock turn waste. As its getting any contribution outside it would be willing to get this marginal contribution at minimum. I went on with this assumption. But now it think its wrong
March 8, 2018 at 6:40 am #441261Way too errors in spell m sorry hope h have understood my reason 😀 well goodluck for result.
March 8, 2018 at 6:57 am #441265I totally agree. The questions in part C, was too far from revision past papers as well as from BPP and Kaplan revisions
March 8, 2018 at 6:57 am #441266This articles has an example which is so similar to ques31 on learning rate part a.
March 8, 2018 at 7:05 am #441267Ya same for ans for the profits
March 8, 2018 at 7:10 am #441269Paper was very hard. Section C question on the value of money. It such a small section in the syllabus don’t know why it was such a big question.
March 8, 2018 at 7:38 am #441279@viscera said:
#allI just want to say one thing.. Acca are getting unfair with the question asking style, their provide us with very few information’s and expects us to answer these question us making the right asumptions… How can that even be possible… in the Transfer pricing question part (b) they were asking that how much to sell internally and externally with the optimum benefit to the company and then in the question it was clearly written that Div B wants 150,000 of adaptors because it wasn’t utilizing its full production capacity, even with the demand of battery be like 180,000… Div A had 200,000 external demand as the question was taking me … it was clearly showing that Div A is full filling both Div B demand and External demand completely..
The i ask from the acca whats the point of asking this kind of question, are u guys trying to confuse us, or u guys dont have any other thing left to ask
I absolutely agree with you.The ultimate objective should be the learning by testing concepts. Not confusing candidates to make mistakes. And confusing on things which are not part of the syllabus but based on a IQ level which varies from person to person.I was thinking as once told by my tutor such low quality questions can only be seen in BPP and Kaplan kits but now ACCA is also following the same path.
March 8, 2018 at 7:53 am #441282Does anyone know when the correct answers will be released?
March 8, 2018 at 8:10 am #441284Did anyone have a question on tables and chairs in section B? One question was how many tables should be produced in quarter 1, limiting factor was 25m3 of oak each table used 5m3….however, 4 tables was not an option so I selected the maximum demand.
March 8, 2018 at 8:50 am #441289@chrisj1 said:
Did anyone have a question on tables and chairs in section B? One question was how many tables should be produced in quarter 1, limiting factor was 25m3 of oak each table used 5m3….however, 4 tables was not an option so I selected the maximum demand.If i remember correctly i thought the question ask how many chair should be produced. It was only one scare resources material and unlimited labour so you are correct it is a limited factor.
First you would have to rank the product based on return per scares resource. Chair was rank second, therfore table would be first.
I dont remember how many unit but i remember that only 12 meter was available for chair only and each chair use 0.2 meter
Therfore 60 chair should be produced 12÷0.2 = 60
March 8, 2018 at 8:55 am #441290In question 31 I calculated learning rate 96%
400*32*r5=10368
r5=0.81
r=96%How did you get 90%?
March 8, 2018 at 8:57 am #441291Exactly guys i agree with all of your comments regarding the transfer pricing question…. It’s an unethical way to confuse the students…. First i multiplied with 150000 units only then i striked it out & changed it to 180000 units…. What is the correct answer? Do we have multiply by 150000units or 180000 units??
March 8, 2018 at 8:58 am #441292@odean20 said:
If i remember correctly i thought the question ask how many chair should be produced. It was only one scare resources material and unlimited labour so you are correct it is a limited factor.First you would have to rank the product based on return per scares resource. Chair was rank second, therfore table would be first.
I dont remember how many unit but i remember that only 12 meter was available for chair only and each chair use 0.2 meter
Therfore 60 chair should be produced 12÷0.2 = 60
Yes 60
chairs is the correct answer…..March 8, 2018 at 9:03 am #441293@natss said:
In question 31 I calculated learning rate 96%
400*32*r5=10368
r5=0.81
r=96%How did you get 90%?
The second batch takes 360 hours
The first batch takes 400 hoursTherefore divide 360÷400 = 90%
Or1 batch take 400 hours
1 batch take 320 hoursAdd both batch and divide by 2. That is (400 +320)/2 = 360 hours
An then divide by the 1 first batch 400. That is 360÷400 = 90%March 8, 2018 at 9:07 am #441294@odean20 said:
If i remember correctly i thought the question ask how many chair should be produced. It was only one scare resources material and unlimited labour so you are correct it is a limited factor.First you would have to rank the product based on return per scares resource. Chair was rank second, therfore table would be first.
I dont remember how many unit but i remember that only 12 meter was available for chair only and each chair use 0.2 meter
Therfore 60 chair should be produced 12÷0.2 = 60
yea right ans is 60
March 8, 2018 at 9:12 am #441295can anyone tell how u guys calculated the 31 question variance?
March 8, 2018 at 9:16 am #441297I got 60 too after ranking them on contribution per scarce resource
March 8, 2018 at 9:33 am #441309It was hard paper and I run out time for C
March 8, 2018 at 9:43 am #441330@dipta3308 said:
can anyone tell how u guys calculated the 31 question variance?That was a trick question.
First you would have to calculate the revised standard using the learning rate of 85%
The question say after three month ( the 2 batch) the the product reach a steady state.My reason was that i should find the nth batch of the remaining 14 batch (16 batch – 2 batch)
Y=400× 2 batch^0.234
Y=340.109 hoursTotal hours for 2 batch (340.109 × 2 batch) = 680. 22 hours
Y= 400 × 1 bacth ^0.234
=400 hoursTotal hours for 1 batch (400 * 1) = 400 hours
Therfore the nth batch is ( 680 – 4000) = 280.22 hours
Batch 3 onward would take 280.22 hours
Month 1-3 would take 680.22 hours
Month 3-6 would take 3923.08 hours ( nth batch 280.22 × the remaining 14 batch)
Total hours work 4603.3 hoursRevise standard is 4603.3 hours × $16 = $73652.80
Original standard is 400 hours × 16 batch × $16 = $102400
Planning variance is $28747.2 FRevise standard is 4603.3 hours × $16 = $73652.80
Actuall hours worked is 5184 hours × 16 =$82944
Operational variance is $9291.20 AMarch 8, 2018 at 10:03 am #441342Actual production at the standard hours against the Actual production at the revised hours cost out at the standard cost.
March 8, 2018 at 10:05 am #441345@odean20 said:
That was a trick question.First you would have to calculate the revised standard using the learning rate of 85%
The question say after three month ( the 2 batch) the the product reach a steady state.My reason was that i should find the nth batch of the remaining 14 batch (16 batch – 2 batch)
Y=400× 2 batch^0.234
Y=340.109 hoursTotal hours for 2 batch (340.109 × 2 batch) = 680. 22 hours
Y= 400 × 1 bacth ^0.234
=400 hoursTotal hours for 1 batch (400 * 1) = 400 hours
Therfore the nth batch is ( 680 – 4000) = 280.22 hours
Batch 3 onward would take 280.22 hours
Month 1-3 would take 680.22 hours
Month 3-6 would take 3923.08 hours ( nth batch 280.22 × the remaining 14 batch)
Total hours work 4603.3 hoursRevise standard is 4603.3 hours × $16 = $73652.80
Original standard is 400 hours × 16 batch × $16 = $102400
Planning variance is $28747.2 FRevise standard is 4603.3 hours × $16 = $73652.80
Actuall hours worked is 5184 hours × 16 =$82944
Operational variance is $9291.20 AYou are making me confused because isn’t the number of batches is 32 and actual hours worked is 10,384? It’s stated in the case
March 8, 2018 at 10:08 am #441348I am very frustrated with the exam, that question was something I have studied very hard, but as we have had a sepultura cover live since the beginning until the end of the exam on top of our heads, you could think clearly, put whatever.
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