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Hi everyone,
I have also registered to UoL MSc path way 2 web-support starting July 20. Will be working on the GIFP module.
Good to see so many of us challenging and committing ourselves to this. Would be great to join this support group.@kirinski said:
You did NOT answer my question.
I did not ask what TQM is or how it works. I have no issues understanding applicability of TQM per se.My question still stands: why and how it is important to know whether traditional variances are applicable in TQM environment.
It’s rather obvious to be honest, that no standards, other then the IDEAL standard (within statistical error margins), can exist in such environment in principle.
So, please can you tell me, how is the analysis of applicability of the standards is supposed to enrich our professional lives?
Dear Kirinski
Im an optimist, I work in the financial services sector in the city and analysing sales is a part of my role and I got 84% in my F4 law paper so yes Iam quite law orientated.
Wow you are really good at this maybe you should have a change of career and become a Careers Advisor?
(No offence meant just a joke)
I sat the F5 exam before the new examiner if that helps. So unfortunately we cant compare results Im afraid to how hard the exams maybe now to how hard they were then – due to so many different variables let alone a different examiner and examiner style.
I tell you what, why dont you sit my ATT tax exams and I will sit your F5 exam just for fun. Second thoughts thats a bit of a backward step for me and far too much of a forward step for you. Besides I’m sure if you did decide to sit an exam there would be far too much scrutiny in terms of “if it was relevant to what you will be doing in a work place” – rather than knuckling down and getting the task done.
Or is that a challenge too much? 😉
@angleo86 said:
I really do wonder if you would have said what u said when you were a student. Despite your good intentions your comments just appear obnoxious.Yes I did again this is what separates those that have a strong mindset of succeeding from those that are weaker in their thinking and mindset. I never forgot the goal or the amount of work that was involved to achieve receiving the ACCA. I worked full time, studied in the evenings part-time and have a family. Nothing to do with being obnoxious. How much do you want it, what are you willing to sacrifice to realise your goal and dreams? You need to look deep inside and really believe you have what it takes. I didnt have anybody holding my hand walking me through the exams. I studied hard and worked hard to be where Iam and deserve every credit for the life I have now. You either really want to or you dont. Obnoxious or not I have nothing to prove. Its a long path of hard work and sacrifice and it wasnt just the long hours of studying that helped it was the mindset of wanting to succeed. If you think it is being obnoxious than so be it, but read between the lines of what I have written.
@kirinski said:
First of all, if you would please refrain from irritating us all with your unfounded and ridiculous “doubts” (“claim to have spent hours revising”? – you BET!!!)Secondly, a little more respect towards your fellow students would be appropriate. If you bothered to actually read the posts carefully enough, you would have seen what your fellow students have perceived as being unfair.
Nothing to do with question-spotting.To me personally, the narrow coverage of syllabus was a major issue.
I have no idea what you do, but I work in the industry.
ACCA is supposed to be about hands-on, applicable knowledge, covering wide variety of issues.
How is applicability of standards in TQM environment relevant to ANY of us, is unclear to me.
The differences between manufacturing and services? -seriously? – how useful is our ability to distinguish the characteristics of these?
I very much doubt that target costing in NHS scenario has any use in real life either.
The reason that the above questions / knowledge are not relevant to real life is because these questions are “made up” out of narrow and perhaps even obsolete areas of syllabus.And finally, with regards to your comment that the students only come here to complain…
Well, as you know (or don’t?), statistics don’t lie.
Have a look at the identical polls conducted for Dec 11 or Jun 11 sittings… they are still on this website, have a look and see the difference.
(or perhaps, miraculously, many more moaners came online this June compared to June 2011?)Good luck with your results.
If you have been as inventive in your assumptions about the scenarios in the exam as you have been on this forum, I would not be surprised if you passed.But I, for once, would not be celebrating even if I DO pass, as I was going to tackle P5 next, and now I lost all my motivation to go ahead with the subject.
Blimey seems as though F5 is a bit of a sore note for everyone on this forum and thats just it – its only F5. I completed the ACCA nearly two years ago and am a member. I still like to keep tabs on how students are tackling the exams and it seems not very well at all.
These exams generally should be seen as hurdles a challenge that when you get over one hurdle, you build momentum to get over the other – and so on and so forth. Whoever says you cant cover the whole syllabus has never tried it as believe me you CAN cover the whole syllabus for each and every paper whether that be F1 or P5. Its that simple. A lot of what you study at ACCA is not used in the work place but thats just it, its a hurdle a challenge where many of you fail to realise its not about utilising this information in the work place – you never will, but it is about following instruction and doing exactly what is asked of you. I never walked into an exam hesitant, nervy or ill prepared as I was so confident in my abiilities to ANSWER the question that was given in front of me. It beggars belief how some students actually walk into the exam ill prepared and blame the examiner for setting a hard paper or doing the work and then wilting under the pressure due to exam nerves. Sorry students you need to take a lot more responsibility for your own development and not even blame the teacher/tutor at any professional development centre or university its up to you to do the hard work and ask the right questions. It is also your duty as a student to exercise a strong exam technique and keep a focussed but detemined mind in any exam.
ACCA is not about spoon feeding the students like University tutors have done for the degrees you may hold. ACCA is just that a test not just of your technical knowledge of a proposed discipline, but also a psycological test of concentration, endurance and stamina that not only have you studied on average 80-120 hours per paper previously in terms of preparation, but you also have the mental prowess of getting that information down under exam conditions to a question that you may never have encountered in your preperations and score maximum marks.
If you think about it this is the training and grooming you are getting now to go out in the “real” accounting world and cement and develop your skills further. Adapt your thinking, think outside of the proverbial box, stop wearing blinkers and realise why these exams are so difficult and what you are training yourself to do. Some students may read this and say What??? But trust me I have been where you ALL are. I have worked full time and completed 14 papers in 2 and a half years with one fail funnily enought that being F5. Failing is about learning and sometimes to fail helps you to focus on what went wrong. But you must understand what YOU did poorly for you to make the necessary changes. But thats just it ACCA seperates those that are good at whinging and those that are just winners. I answered to this post as the both of you seem to have valid points in your thinking and you also both seem to be passionate about what you are thinking.
I do hope you all do well and pass. If you do or you dont for that matter – please take the time to understand ACCA is not easy and by right it should not be easy and it should cover a wide randge of topics as in the real world you get everything thrown at you bar the kitchen sink that ACCA does’nt prepare you for, but grooms you so that you can take on the whole world with the skills it equips you with. If you have not worked hard enough you will not reap the rewards that this exciting and demanding qualification will give in return to you all. I dont want to be working alongside an incompetent accountant in years to come as the ACCA has been dumbed down like many other british exam boards. You will also be extremely surprised during your studies as you progress as to how much information you do actually retain and how it flows like a fountain of knowledge in years to come. Hard work, persistence, a strong mental agility, reading the entire syllabus, exam kits, past papers, making your own supernotes and revising them, reading examiner articles and working on your own exam technique will get you through. Guaranteed. You must start to enjoy the ACCA and the studying that goes with it.
You will be twiddling your thumbs every May and November after your exams are over as your mind feels it is exam time, but that time never comes. The small butterflies as you enter the exam hall, the focus, grit and detemination as you prepare for battle with the examiners “new” paper – wow that was a rush.GOOD LUCK – I hope to see you on the other side 🙂
52% first time. Not an amazing result but a pass nonetheless 🙂 Congrats to all who passed and to those that didnt, Good luck in the Dec 2011 sits. Wahooooooo – Affiliate!!!!