I was wondering why 1.6 m is added to the RE instead of subtracting it. Isn’t it the excess depreciation due to increase in reavaluation, and by that logic shouldn’t it reduce RE?
Dear Open Tuition, Why isn’t the accum depr is 12m+5.6m = 17.6m So the carrying value of the asset as at 31.12.2015 will be 95m-17.6m=7.4m instead of 95m-5.6m=89.4m Why is the 12m accum depr ignored after revaluation?
Besides, I do not understand the comparison of 4m (old depr) and 5.6m (new depr) to SOE…..
When we are revaluing we have to take the carrying value of the asset (that is 80M less 12M Acc Depn=68M) and revalue it up to 68M. So the double entry for this will be DR Acc Depn 12M (to reverse it on other words), DR Cost [95M (new value)-80M(old value)] with 15M and the credit will go to the Other Comprehensive Income (OCI) section in the SOPLOCI of 27M. I hope this gives you more clarity. Then we take the new value and depreciate.
Quick question. IAS 16 for recognition has 2 criteria (probability of economic benefits flowing to the entity and that the cost can be reliably measured). In the revised framework though these 2 criteria were replaced by the criteria of relevance of the info provided and that the recognistion of the asset provides faithfull represented info. If there is a question regarding recognition of a PPE, should we follow the IAS 16 or the revised framework?
Cap bought a building on 1 January 20X1. The purchase price was $2.9m, associated legal fees were $0.1m and general administrative costs allocated to the purchase were $0.2m. Cap also paid sales tax of $0.5m, which was recovered from the tax authorities. The building was attributed a useful economic life of 50 years. It was revalued to $4.6m on 31 December 20X4 and was sold for $5m on 31 December 20X5.
in this question there has been a transfer of 1.84m from OCE TO RETAINED EARNINGS. should it not be 1.8 m? please help me thanks
I have a doubt regarding PPE. in definition it is written that PPE is used for rental to others. my question is how to know whether it is a lease or PPE?
If we recognise the asset as a right of use asset under a lease as the lessee then it will be classified as PPE. If we are the lessor and rent it out under an operating lease then we still have the risks and rewards of ownership and so continue to recognise the PPE in our books. The question will make the scenario clear in any exam question.
Hello Mr Barlow, I have a question regarding the revaluation increase problem that you solved towards the end of this video. When we transferred 1.6 million at the end of year 2015 (difference in depreciation: between 4 and 5.6) to revaluation reserve from Other Comprehensive Income, can it also be inferred as appropriating OCI and transferring the same to revaluation reserve over remaining useful life of asset? Thanks in advance
It is just a transfer of reserves from the revaluation reserve to retained earnings. I can’t say that I’ve heard the terms that you mention above, sorry.
The revaluation reserve is not a distributable reserve and by making the transfer to retained earnings we are increasing retained earnings which is a distributale reserve.
I still have a question, how did we make the transfer from reserve to RE. I saw where you removed the 1.6 from reval reserve but not add the 1.6 to the RE. We already have a 5.6 being removed from the total asset figure when calculating the NBV at the end of the year.
Hello Sir, can you please give a example of this statement- “The accumulated depreciation at the date of the revaluation is adjusted to equal the difference between the gross carrying amount and the carrying amount of the asset after taking into account accumulated impairment losses.”
SenoJVTA says
Hello Mr Barlow,
I was wondering why 1.6 m is added to the RE instead of subtracting it. Isn’t it the excess depreciation due to increase in reavaluation, and by that logic shouldn’t it reduce RE?
Many thanks
AngelaTan says
Dear Open Tuition,
Why isn’t the accum depr is 12m+5.6m = 17.6m
So the carrying value of the asset as at 31.12.2015 will be 95m-17.6m=7.4m instead of 95m-5.6m=89.4m
Why is the 12m accum depr ignored after revaluation?
Besides, I do not understand the comparison of 4m (old depr) and 5.6m (new depr) to SOE…..
no1lover says
When we are revaluing we have to take the carrying value of the asset (that is 80M less 12M Acc Depn=68M) and revalue it up to 68M. So the double entry for this will be DR Acc Depn 12M (to reverse it on other words), DR Cost [95M (new value)-80M(old value)] with 15M and the credit will go to the Other Comprehensive Income (OCI) section in the SOPLOCI of 27M. I hope this gives you more clarity. Then we take the new value and depreciate.
balomenos86 says
Hi,
Quick question. IAS 16 for recognition has 2 criteria (probability of economic benefits flowing to the entity and that the cost can be reliably measured).
In the revised framework though these 2 criteria were replaced by the criteria of relevance of the info provided and that the recognistion of the asset provides faithfull represented info.
If there is a question regarding recognition of a PPE, should we follow the IAS 16 or the revised framework?
Nojeem says
Is a credit to OCI,an automatic credit to OCE?
Mohammed786- says
How would the answer be different for example 1 Panama if the asset was revalued at 31st December 2015 instead OF 31st January 2015?
Would we calculate depreciation for 2015 at £4m?
Referring to Page 44 SBR lecture notes example 1 revaluation increase
Trang says
Sir,
In the SOFP, Equity Section should be included “retained earning” with 1.6, right?
Thanks!
ProfLuqman01 says
I think the tutor mentioned we use SOCE
proticz says
I did not understand anything from 13.11 till the end of the video
what did you do with excess depreciation
and what is the logic behind transferring the excess to SOCIE ?
lpx454 says
Hai can you send me the little bit explinatory notes on PPE if possible
kartik123456 says
Cap bought a building on 1 January 20X1. The purchase price was $2.9m, associated legal fees were $0.1m and general administrative costs allocated to the purchase were $0.2m. Cap also paid sales tax of $0.5m, which was recovered from the tax authorities. The building was attributed a useful economic life of 50 years. It was revalued to $4.6m on 31 December 20X4 and was sold for $5m on 31 December 20X5.
in this question there has been a transfer of 1.84m from OCE TO RETAINED EARNINGS.
should it not be 1.8 m?
please help me
thanks
ProfLuqman01 says
In relation to this question, how is profit on sales of PPE item treated? Is it just recognized as a profit in P&L.
Also, since the revaluation surplus has been realized, will it be transferred permanently to P&L as well?
kartik123456 says
hello,
I have a doubt regarding PPE.
in definition it is written that PPE is used for rental to others.
my question is how to know whether it is a lease or PPE?
P2-D2 says
Hi,
If we recognise the asset as a right of use asset under a lease as the lessee then it will be classified as PPE. If we are the lessor and rent it out under an operating lease then we still have the risks and rewards of ownership and so continue to recognise the PPE in our books. The question will make the scenario clear in any exam question.
Thanks
kartik123456 says
thanks,
I have a doubt. Should it not be an investment property for the lessor if he rents out an asset under an operating lease.
P2-D2 says
The asset is transferred from PPE to IP. Thanks
chaithanya1990 says
Hello Mr Barlow, I have a question regarding the revaluation increase problem that you solved towards the end of this video.
When we transferred 1.6 million at the end of year 2015 (difference in depreciation: between 4 and 5.6) to revaluation reserve from Other Comprehensive Income, can it also be inferred as appropriating OCI and transferring the same to revaluation reserve over remaining useful life of asset?
Thanks in advance
P2-D2 says
Hi,
It is just a transfer of reserves from the revaluation reserve to retained earnings. I can’t say that I’ve heard the terms that you mention above, sorry.
Thanks
vinessen says
sir whats the logic behind adding the 1.6 to the RE after deducting it from the 27 in SOCE?
P2-D2 says
Hi,
The revaluation reserve is not a distributable reserve and by making the transfer to retained earnings we are increasing retained earnings which is a distributale reserve.
Thanks
savburke876 says
I still have a question, how did we make the transfer from reserve to RE. I saw where you removed the 1.6 from reval reserve but not add the 1.6 to the RE.
We already have a 5.6 being removed from the total asset figure when calculating the NBV at the end of the year.
udesay says
Hello Sir, can you please give a example of this statement- “The accumulated depreciation at the date of the revaluation is adjusted to equal the difference between the gross carrying amount and the carrying amount of the asset after taking into account accumulated impairment losses.”