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I attempted 5 times on p7 gets following marks
35,48,48,42,36.
This is my last paper which i need to pass but i dont know how.
I solved the revision papers,revison kit learn the definations,ISA but in exams i always feel time shortage. I attempted all queostions but due to time shortage i shorten my answers. Is that a Issue . This time i am planning to attempt fully three queostions and leave One queostion , It helps in giving more focus and more Detailed answer on three queostions so 50 marks secured . I need your advice.
Awaiting for your kind replyLeaving One complete question at expense of remaining three would be never recommended.
Read examiner comments of attempts u failed in and try to memorize big mistakes you maid like writing completely different and in audit and even ACCA exams questions verbs matter a lot…….This time I have realized that same question can be answered 100% differently just changing one verb and we usually just follow kit and impatiently in exams assume Yeahhh this is the same thing i learned Question …… from kit.I think reading text book ideally BPP, accounting standards (must) and solving kit is best approach. I personally believe reading book and accounting standards should be first priority then Kit and U can go in exams even u have not done kit completely but Book and Accounting standards are oxygen for P7….This is my approach and hoping for the best!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanksd fot your reply
My opinion is that it is better to attempt solid three queostions attempts rather than four un complete answers beacause i experienced in previous sittings that trying to attempt all queostions will reduced the quality of answers, resulting in fail. If i attempt 85 marks with good answers possibily i will get 50 marks. because i fell always lengty paper and p7 in every sitting is diffiult each year. Yes i already completed text books in each sitting but in this attempt i only focused on revision kit and past papers.
If you attempt only three questions – I look forward to seeing your post in February saying “I’ve attempted P7 6 times”
Missing a question off any ACCA exam is probably the worst thing any student could do. There are people in this World who will claim proudly that they passed and only attempted 80% of the paper. They are the really lucky ones! And there aren’t many of them
Maybe you’re writing too much when making a point.
There are two good articles on the P3 ACCA technical articles from April 2011 (?) written by two members of the P3 marking team. Read those, and then read them again.
I sing exactly the same song except I do not take into account the 15 minutes reading and planning time when I work out that you should plan each answer ( 20 mark question = 10 minutes’ planning, 8 mark question = 4 minutes’ planning and so on ) and, having spent that time forcing yourself to think of 20 / 8 relevant, markable, correct points, you then have only 1.3 minutes to make each separate markable point.
Not 1.2 nor ( worse ) 1.4. You have exactly 1.3 minutes to score a point.
That MUST mean that your sentences are short ( but still proper sentences ) and contain ONLY ONE POINT ( remember, one point per paragraph, one paragraph per point )
Leave a line between each paragraph – effectively between each sentence – your sentences cannot be longer than two and a half lines!
Respected Sir
Thanks for your reply but answers in kit and past papers are quite longer . so iam try to folow these approach always. iam still confused how much i write for one point, one line , two lines?. Do you think p7 is to lengthy and time pressured or not. If i go for All quostions iam sure i will not complete the paper thats why i am thinking to correctly and full attempt three questions.
Awaiting for your kind replyI’ll hear from you again in February! Attempt just three? Why do you not believe the examiner in her examiner’s report? Why do you not believe every tutor you have ever heard?
Ok, don’t believe us – I’ll hear from you in February
Of course BPP and Kaplan answers are too long! You couldn’t even COPY them within the time allocation. How many times am I on record as saying this? They are approximately 4 times longer than you could even begin to hope to achieve.
Have you done any research on this site about students asking about exam technique?
I give up! I have said the same exam technique post countless times and STILL I’M getting mindless posts from students who keep asking the same MINDLESS QUESTION.
Please, don’t pay any attention to me. I would love to hear from you again in February with a post that starts “I attempted 6 times on P7 ….”
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i agree with you mike. i am ready to follow your seggestions and i’ll defenitely attempt all questions in paper. thnx alot for your valuable suggestions.
Rahil – 🙂
And, if you do attempt 100 marks’ worth, then I will probably be able to live with the sad thought that I’ll never read your posts again on opentuition …. because you’ve likely passed
Good luck!
I like the idea of attempting less questions( who wouldn’t), but I need to pass, and I have realized from lots of exams that I have sat, that there are many easy marks to grab with little effort, and especially in P7 where it has do do with the scenario that kinda gives away the point outright.
I intend to answer all that is asked of me and where I can impress the examiner with my knowledge I’ll do so, and where I don’t know much, I’ll fight for a couple marks.
I have gone through the kit(not all yet) and I must say that my teacher lied(not you Mike). He said that Lisa(yep we’re that good 😀 ) asks tough questions. I have seen most of the exams and the only way I can see failure is if I get flustered. I’m not overconfident, but I think she is a fair examiner and gives alot of hints as to what she expects of you in the exams.
Good luck with the 3 questions. Everyone has techniques that work for them, and If 5 times at attempting all the questions hasn’t worked out for you, then best of luck. I hope to see you posting pass marks on Feb.
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I have attempted 4 times in my P5 paper and failed, since this is my last paper i want complete this ASAP, so is it recommended to change to P7 paper
Well, if P5 isn’t working for you, maybe try something new like P7. But do not look at P7 as “the easy option”
Hi Mike, I really appreciate your comments above.
I think I struggle with time management and waffle a lot around the same point. I always feel very stressed in the exam when I allocate the time according to 1.7 mins per mark and feel that omg I should be writing by now but I am not. During the 15 min reading and planning time, I always find that I am too busy just deciding what questions to do and understanding.
I will try your 1.3 min per mark idea and giving planning more of a thought so this means that for a 20 mark questions I should spend about 8 minutes planning and 26 mins writing? I think I waste too much time reading the case as I feel I am a slow reader and under stress dont understand what the case is going on about and what the question is asking.
June ’13 will be my 4th attempt. How shall I best revise for it? I have bought BPP CDs to listen on the train and am thinking to go through the notes per topic and attempt questions from the kit. Initially using the text. Would this be correct? I feel so stressed now and losing confidence in ever passing this paper.
Thank You
I believe you mean 10 minutes planning and 26 minutes writing. If you take the correct length of time planning your 20 points, you’ll find that you simply do not have the time available for waffle – you need to make the point and move on.
Try answering some past exam questions this way under “exam conditions” and you’ll rapidly realise that there is no luxury waffle time available!
Thank you so much for your advice. I wish I had discovered opentuition earlier but never mind..this time, I will pass P7. I know the content, I just stress and misread the questions on the day then find that I am fighting against time.
I am already stressing but I am going to start studying from now (also have P6)
@kk84 said:
Hi Mike, I really appreciate your comments above.I think I struggle with time management and waffle a lot around the same point. I always feel very stressed in the exam when I allocate the time according to 1.7 mins per mark and feel that omg I should be writing by now but I am not. During the 15 min reading and planning time, I always find that I am too busy just deciding what questions to do and understanding.
I will try your 1.3 min per mark idea and giving planning more of a thought so this means that for a 20 mark questions I should spend about 8 minutes planning and 26 mins writing? I think I waste too much time reading the case as I feel I am a slow reader and under stress dont understand what the case is going on about and what the question is asking.
June ’13 will be my 4th attempt. How shall I best revise for it? I have bought BPP CDs to listen on the train and am thinking to go through the notes per topic and attempt questions from the kit. Initially using the text. Would this be correct? I feel so stressed now and losing confidence in ever passing this paper.
Thank You
I had same issues too. Dec 2019 will be my third attempt for P7 and second for P6 in June 2013.
The reason i failed is lack of doing past years questions. Hopefully I can pass as now I decided to take only 1 paper per sitting. 🙂Well better luck this time ( although with thorough preparation, luck plays only a small part ) and good luck in 6 years’ time with your P7 – but I can’t support your approach of leaving your third attempt for that length of time! :-))))
I can also subscribe to the Club of Bad time management. Actually, during my ACCA exams I had always had time management issues in the exam hall. Dec 2012 was the fourth time I took this exam ,which is my last one before becoming an affiliate . During the past 3 tries I had always had marginal fails – 46, 48 and 46 again. During the last 2 times , I was sure I am a going to pass the exam when I came out of the exam hall.
Now , reading your comments ,Mike, I realise that maybe the approach was bad also. My attempt for a 20 mark question had always been to try to make 10 valid & relevant points rather than 20 points. I guess I need to start training myself in finding so many relevant points for a 20-mark question …I can already tell that it won`t be easy.
Thanks for sharing the pieces of advice with us !
@lauramilet said:
I can also subscribe to the Club of Bad time management. Actually, during my ACCA exams I had always had time management issues in the exam hall. Dec 2012 was the fourth time I took this exam ,which is my last one before becoming an affiliate . During the past 3 tries I had always had marginal fails – 46, 48 and 46 again. During the last 2 times , I was sure I am a going to pass the exam when I came out of the exam hall.Now , reading your comments ,Mike, I realise that maybe the approach was bad also. My attempt for a 20 mark question had always been to try to make 10 valid & relevant points rather than 20 points. I guess I need to start training myself in finding so many relevant points for a 20-mark question …I can already tell that it won`t be easy.
Thanks for sharing the pieces of advice with us !
ya. as far as i know in P7, markers want more points with detailed explanation which is why time management is crucial. all the best!!!! 🙂
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Hello Mr. Mick i totally agree with you that completing the paper is essential go pass
I attempted P7 in June 2012 due to time shortage and i would say due to lack of time management i didn’t attempted part of a question worth 23 marks because i spent too much time on other questions and finally run out of time and failed at 46.
This all happened because i didn’t used 15 minutes of reading and planing ineffectively my problem is when 15 min time starts i usually start reading questions and underline the points relating to requirement and when i start writing i feel like that these points don’t relate to either each other or the question requirements and then i start reading underlined points again and sometimes also those points which i never underlined before this second reading consumes my writing time and when i get started to write i have very little time to write so many points. My other problem is that when i start writing a question i usually either write a single point in very detail or write too many points for few marks when allocated time to that part of question ends i feel like that i have not wrote enough points and there r still valid and important points in question to quote and i feel like that if i don’t write this one particularly point which seems very important in scenario then i will definitely not get enough marks awarded on this part therefore i am sure going to fail and then i start writing again on the expense of time allocated to other parts of question. This all negative approach makes me run of of time at the end of the exam.Please help me on this matter and guide me how should i utilize my 15 minutes of reading and planing effectively
ThanksIf you write exam answers like your message above, it’s no surprise that you fail. Greater use of punctuation will assist the poor marker to make some sense of your attempt!
Read it again for yourself and see if you can understand what I’m saying
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I have attempted 4 times in my P5 paper and failed, since this is my last paper i want complete this ASAP, so is it recommended to change to P7 paperI haveattempt p5 for 3 times and failed! This time I change to p7 cause …..I am not a CFO……I do not know how to apply the knowledge I learntfrom p5…..and there is always a thinking difference exists……I do not think I am odd!
p7 is more useful for me.
good luck.
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