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- June 29, 2012 at 3:03 pm #53683
lots of my friend said that P5 is easier than P4…… emmmm what do you guys think?
July 14, 2012 at 4:45 pm #101788Hello Rich Lee,
Hopefully, I will try to provide an objective set of opinions on both papers. Most students made the common mistake of choosing a Professional-level paper based on their ‘level of difficulty’ or follow peer-popularity.
1) Are you fundamentally strong in your F5 Management Accounting knowledge? Are you also confident with your brought-forward knowledge from F9 Financial Management knowledge? Did you struggle in either Fundamental paper?
2) Would you like to expand on what you learn from your P3 Business Analysis paper? Paper P5 APM is a very value-adding subject because you will learn top-management strategies, learning intrinsic knowledge on managing the company’s direction.
3) What is your ambition? Would you like to work as a strategic/ management consultant? Or an investment banker? What is your career direction?
4) I would lie if I say either P4 or P5 is easier over one another. Both papers have their unique challenges, and both also have new examiners (P4 – Shishir Malde, and P5 – Alex Watt) who set really challenging questions for the exams. Both papers have low average world pass rates.
5) You will need a very deep grasp of financial knowledge like complex financial formulaes and you must be able to interpret your calculations in P4. For Paper P5, examiner Alex Watt has strongly emphasized for students to train themselves to look at the bigger picture, hence his question requirements merely require you to look at any deficiencies of a performance report, and suggest recommendations. You are not given any indication on what model you should use, especially in Question 1.
6) If you haven’t cultivate your habit to read the financial press, I highly recommend you should. The latest questions often test the latest highlights in the economy – Paper P4 with the European debt crisis (Technical Article) and Paper P5 having tested in June 2012 exam; a question on the flailing airlines industry.
In the end, I can recommend, if you are having difficulty choosing either P4 or P5, why not consider the combination of both? Both papers actually complement very well. If you put your heart into studying and discussing with your friends or tutors on any questions you find difficult, then you assure yourself of passing your ACCA exam paper with ease.
Cheers!
July 19, 2012 at 2:59 pm #101789Hi angryhamtaro,
Thank you so much for your precious advise and comment, it really helps. I believe your precious feedback on both papers have help many others in their decision too!, thank you very much for your kind assistance and time….. 🙂Cheers
July 24, 2012 at 3:11 am #101790AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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Hi Guys
I have been passing ACCA papers well but P4 has proved to be challenging, who can assist me with ho i can pass this paper.
challenges:
It appears the study guides, in particular BPP, according to me is failing to adquately cover the exam requirements, or on the other way round, the examiner does not consider the study guide in setting exams.With other professionalpapers, like P7, P3, P1 I have seen the study guides BPP, being very useful, but on P4 its a different story, who can help, which material should I use?????????
WorriedJuly 29, 2012 at 1:39 pm #101791Good day @jjchiwasa,
My college lecturer suggested to refer to Kaplan text books because of their simpler explanation. If books can’t help you understand P4 better, I recommend you to enroll for a part time tuition course (I presume you are a college student like myself) because it’s better to learn from a tuition lecturer who shall take the effort to teach you in a more understandable manner.
You may like to supplement your reading with the financial press or magazines.
August 2, 2012 at 8:21 am #101792AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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howdy guys
I do have several questions about P4 & P5, and id be extremely glad if anyone could give me some advice or suggestions!
First, im not from an English speaking conutry, so it’s my weakness to read and understand materials in another language/
Second, im still a college student, so im lacking of real experience and practical skills. Will this affect my studying effectiveness and efficiency, and to what extent will it affect?
Last, but not least, is there any quick and effective ways to fill this gap for me?Justin -from Shanghai
August 2, 2012 at 10:07 am #101793Hello @cateatfishes,
First things first, don’t let the language barrier get in your way of passing your exams.
I’m also from Malaysia whereby English is our second language. We do acknowledge that it will be challenging to mentally translate our thoughts into a 3-hour paper, but in fact it is not so difficult provided that you practice, practice and practice.
I presume you have went through and done well in your P123, and you should be well on your way to gear up for your optional level papers.
Go with study buddies and discuss on doing questions. Have conversations with friends in English. Ask questions in lectures in English. Read financial press and magazines in English (or in fact subscribe to one if your local bookstores don’t provide it).
As college students, we just need to study a little bit harder and read a little bit more than those at the other end of the spectrum – working part time and having the work experience, but lacking the time to study. Make your studies method innovative and fun – use mind maps, mnemonics, etc. As again, read more supplementary books and check out your college library more often, other than your BPP text book. We have our unique advantage as college students, so take control of it.
Most importantly, let go of your ego and turn your weakness into your strength. Perceptions and worries will only weaken us and bring doubts to our talents and self-worth.
August 7, 2012 at 5:12 pm #101794AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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thanks guys for the heads-up
September 17, 2012 at 12:50 pm #101795Hi guys,
I have attempted P5 three times but without success. How can I pass P5? SOMEBODY HELP ME PLEASE! It is the only paper am remaining with before becoming an affiliate. What is really the secrete? Tell me how YOU passed this paper which has become a terror- please.September 17, 2012 at 7:30 pm #101796There’s no secret really, it’s just methodical consistent hard work by practising a wide bank of PYQ many times, making sure you read every page of your text book (strictly not your lecturer’s notes because they’re dangerously incomplete) and expanding your knowledge base. Alex Watt expects us to flexibly apply what we learnt to different discursive-styled case scenarios, so rote memory wouldn’t just guarantee a pass.
As again, the advice of “Understanding the question requirement” has been constantly reminded year after year. 🙂
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