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  • This topic has 5 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 6 years ago by Kim Smith.
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  • January 17, 2019 at 2:39 pm #502452
    alikhakar
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    Can an external auditor of a listed company provide internal audit services to the same company if different teams are used ?

    January 17, 2019 at 2:40 pm #502454
    alikhakar
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    And also what about non listed companies for the same regard ?

    January 17, 2019 at 3:27 pm #502458
    Kim Smith
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    For a PIE, it would be prohibited if the internal audit services relate to:
    – a significant part of the internal controls over financial reporting or
    – financial accounting systems (or amounts/disclosures) that are significant (material) to the financial statements.

    For any client, an external auditor cannot assume management responsibilities (e.g. in the context of internal audit services it would be a nonsense if an audit firm were to report to TCWG on their internal audit activities on behalf of management – and also to report on internal controls to TCWG as external auditor).

    If not prohibited by these restrictions the auditor would assess the threats to the fundamental principles and reduce them to an acceptable level (e.g. different teams).

    January 18, 2019 at 4:14 pm #502621
    alikhakar
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    Is this explanation applicable to both lidted and non listed clients ?

    January 18, 2019 at 4:18 pm #502624
    alikhakar
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    Or is there some flexibility for non listed clients? Like any independent external staff can be appointed for internal audit of non listed firms

    January 18, 2019 at 4:31 pm #502625
    Kim Smith
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    PIE is “public interest entity” (includes listed clients). Where I say “any client” I mean PIE or non-PIE. So in terms of assuming management responsibility there is no flexibility.
    Subject to these restrictions (i.e. not a PIE and not assuming management responsibility), an external audit can provide internal audit services to a client with appropriate safeguards (e.g. different teams carrying out each assignment).

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