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Accounting Rate of Return

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  • This topic has 7 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 6 years ago by John Moffat.
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  • January 3, 2019 at 6:25 pm #499881
    chinny98
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    If that is the case, the question gt disposal value, how should we treat it in accounting rate of return? which part will be affected?
    Thanks sir

    January 3, 2019 at 6:29 pm #499890
    John Moffat
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    If what is the case?

    The disposal value is relevant in calculating the annual depreciation charge (which affects the profit).

    In addition, the average investment is (initial cost + disposal value) / 2

    This is revision from Paper MA (was F2) and is all explained in my free lectures 🙂

    January 4, 2019 at 7:02 am #499921
    chinny98
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    Is it same like scrap value, but disposal value is + to initial investment while scrap value is minus from initial investment?

    Average annual profit=

    Total est CF- total depreciation for the investment (initial investment-scrap value+disposal value)=total profit
    From total profit/investment life span= average annual profit

    Average investment
    =(Initial Investment-Scrap Value +Disposal Value)/2

    Is that correct?

    January 4, 2019 at 8:00 am #499953
    John Moffat
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    No it isn’t correct.

    Scrap value and disposal value are the same thing!

    Total depreciation = (initial investment – scrap value) / life of investment

    Average investment = (initial investment + scrap value) / 2

    Have you watched the free lectures?

    January 4, 2019 at 9:00 am #499957
    chinny98
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    I think scrap value is the net realisable value, while disposal value is the cost to remove the asset.
    It should not be the same thing right?????

    Thanksss

    January 4, 2019 at 9:04 am #499959
    John Moffat
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    The two are the same thing. Disposal value means sale value (or scrap value).

    You are thinking of disposal cost – that would be the cost of removing the asset.

    January 4, 2019 at 9:19 am #499960
    chinny98
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    Orhh sorry I misunderstand it. I have watched the free lecture video

    As per u mention, average investment= initial investment + scrap value/2

    However, I am wondering the example 8 sir u discussed in lecture video why from 80,000 (asset original amount) drop to 10,000 (scrap value). The difference not supposed like 80,000 drop to 10,000 which means difference is 70,000 and then divided by 2? why it will use 80,000+10,000/2 to find the average investment??
    I a bit confused with this part.

    If there is disposal cost, where will it be?

    January 5, 2019 at 10:59 am #500063
    John Moffat
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    If the value is 80,000 at the start and falls over the period to 10,000 at the end, then the average value is the average of the two in the normal way i.e. (80,000 + 10,000) / 2 = 45,000.

    A disposal cost is unlikely in the exam but is treated just as negative scrap proceeds.

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