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loan consideration in cons. FS

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  • May 10, 2011 at 8:03 am #48394
    akm9825
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    As far as i know any loan consideration must be eliminated when consolidating and not be included in purchase consideration when calculating goodwill.eg in june 07 Parentis. but in dec 10 its not the same.in fact its reversed.the loan consideration has been added to purchase consideration and not been eliminated from ncl.
    can someone clear up plz. thx

    May 22, 2011 at 10:07 pm #81604
    shimmer
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    Can you type the exact figures regarding your doubt from the Parentis question ? I think there’s a misprint out there.

    May 23, 2011 at 12:04 am #81605
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    If loan is given as conisderation, it ll be included in all relevant calculations like goodwill.
    loan is not included only when its not the part of consideration, then its more like inter co transaction. (in one of the questions P took over S’s 50% loan) but that wasnot as a part of consideration. p did that AFTER acquisition. in tht case its not part of consideration and inter co transaction

    now apply this rule to all the questions where there is loan, and u ll see it fits every where

    May 25, 2011 at 8:58 am #81606
    akm9825
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    thx buddy

    May 26, 2011 at 6:52 am #81607
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    case one : if p going to acquire s these are included by the following typs

    1- cash payment
    2- share exchange means p gives its own shares at market price to shareholders of sub
    3- deferred cash means p going to pay that cash after period of time say two years time (this should be adjusted to present value(be mindful that you have to unwind the discount means calculating the interest to be added to original amount at the end of the year and it will affect as well as on group retained earning )
    4- contingent consideration
    5 loan theses mean that p issue loan to sub against their investment
    double entry in p records is as follow:

    Dr. investment
    CR. LOAN

    BUT if p acquired 50% or 100% of sub loan that means that p paid to the lender of sub the amount of loan ie now p became the new lender to sub
    assume that sub has 2000 loan in its records and p acquired 100% of that loan

    double entry
    P RECORDS

    DR . INVESTMENT (LOAN GIVEN TO SUB)
    CR CASH

    SUB RECORDS

    NO CHANGING OCCUR IN SUB SINCE SUB SHOULD PAY 2000 AS IT WAS BUT THE DIFFERENCE HERE THAT SUB SHOULD PAY 2000 TO PARENT NOT TO OLD LENDER WHO HAS RECEIVED HIS MONEY FROM PARENT

    so take care that if the loan acquired so it consider from p to sub and that amount should eliminate while consolidation

    if loan issued by p to sub so it should be including cost of investment (consideration ) while calculating goodwill

    hopefully it helps
    thanks,

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