Sir, in the example of ranges. The company is contracted to buy at 0.2 mil so this is inception of derivative contract and the change in market price and contracted price goes to PL at each reporting date, but eventually the company just paid 0.2 mil. So why in the example, the purchase is 0.25 without hedge accounting?
In the illustration you gave: When we have the Financial Asset of $0.05m (gain in the hedging instrument); we debit Financial Assets is SFP, where does the Credit entry goes?
In addition, assuming we have a loss, we will have a financial liability (credit in SFP), where does the Debit go?
A company enters into a derivative contract in order to protect its future cash inflows relating to a recognised financial asset. At inception, when the fair value of the hedging instrument was nil, the relationship was documented as a cash flow hedge.
By the reporting date, the loss in respect of the future cash flows amounted to $9,100 in fair value terms. It has been determined that the hedging relationship meets all effectiveness criteria. Required: Explain the accounting treatment of the cash flow hedge if the fair value of the hedging instrument at the reporting date is: (a) $8,500 (b) $10,000.
We only account for the 8,500 as this is the amount associated with the hedging instrument. Any changes on the item, i.e. the future cash flows, are not accounted for until the transaction takes place.
thank you for quick response. could you please explain me through an example how the fair value of hedging instrument moves to the opposite side of the fair value of the hedged item? thanks
It works in that with the derivative you are effectively placing a bet on the opposite of what you expect to happen. So if you expect the prices to rise in future then you place the derivative bet on prices falling. If prices rise then you pay more on the open market (loss) for the item but you’ve won your bet (gain) on the derivative (instrument) so the loss on one is offset by the gain on the other.
Thanks
rizeaglessays
Sir, what is the difference between the effective & ineffective portion as stated in the notes?
kokoo says
I’ve never understood hedging. Thank you so much for the lecture
RavenGrey says
Thank you sir. The hedging videos really helped a lot.
nhatminh2810 says
Sir, in the example of ranges. The company is contracted to buy at 0.2 mil so this is inception of derivative contract and the change in market price and contracted price goes to PL at each reporting date, but eventually the company just paid 0.2 mil. So why in the example, the purchase is 0.25 without hedge accounting?
Soumire says
Hi, could you please advise do the cash flow of the cash flow hedge needs to be shown separately?
Thank you!
ddarlars says
In the illustration you gave: When we have the Financial Asset of $0.05m (gain in the hedging instrument); we debit Financial Assets is SFP, where does the Credit entry goes?
In addition, assuming we have a loss, we will have a financial liability (credit in SFP), where does the Debit go?
Thanks
kartik123456 says
A company enters into a derivative contract in order to protect its future cash inflows relating to a recognised financial asset. At inception, when the fair value of the hedging instrument was nil, the relationship was documented as a cash flow hedge.
By the reporting date, the loss in respect of the future cash flows amounted to $9,100 in fair value terms. It has been determined that the hedging relationship meets all effectiveness criteria.
Required: Explain the accounting treatment of the cash flow hedge if the fair value of the hedging instrument at the reporting date is:
(a) $8,500 (b) $10,000.
in the first question the journal entry is
dr derivative 8500
cr oci 8500
where will the other 600 go? please help
P2-D2 says
Hi,
We only account for the 8,500 as this is the amount associated with the hedging instrument. Any changes on the item, i.e. the future cash flows, are not accounted for until the transaction takes place.
Thanks
kartik123456 says
thank you for quick response.
could you please explain me through an example how the fair value of hedging instrument moves to the opposite side of the fair value of the hedged item?
thanks
P2-D2 says
It works in that with the derivative you are effectively placing a bet on the opposite of what you expect to happen. So if you expect the prices to rise in future then you place the derivative bet on prices falling. If prices rise then you pay more on the open market (loss) for the item but you’ve won your bet (gain) on the derivative (instrument) so the loss on one is offset by the gain on the other.
Thanks
rizeagles says
Sir, what is the difference between the effective & ineffective portion as stated in the notes?