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- June 6, 2018 at 11:00 am #456757June 6, 2018 at 3:14 pm #457042
q1 was on performance report evaluation 20mrks was smilar and assessed in june 14 and in dec 2016 i think
(¡¡) write 3 performance measures not in the report with calculation ans justification (8)
(iii) value chain analysis measurement connected with the scenario (7)
(iv) big data analysis (risks and drawbacks) 11marksq2 was on manager and divisional assessment (5)
(ii) assess if managers shall obtain annual bonus using R0I drawback and recommendation (14)
(iii) residual income – usefulnessq3 corporate failure
q4 was on suitability of incremental budgeting (13marks)
(ii) variance analysis and recommendation (12marks)June 6, 2018 at 3:15 pm #457044for q1 part (i)
what did u write for 20 points??June 6, 2018 at 3:27 pm #457056Hi guys,
For Q1 i I put around 10 points. They were small points like, it does not look cluttered and the rounding is good.
It was very time pressured and I was not sure what to put to complete the table in question 4B.
I also made a big error in 2ii with ROI. I put it as Profit after Tax / Capital Employed. So my drawbacks were wrong also.
What did you guys put for 4B and 2ii?
Thanks,
Paddy
June 6, 2018 at 3:33 pm #457060I choose Q1 Q2 Q3.
Q1.1.
I write sth like:
– it presents with revenue to show company sizes, but no growth
– use $m to present so not messy
– have EVA, inline with aim
– ROCE is not good for service provider
– have EPS, but no share price growth
– no KPI on largest retailer
– Lack long term trend for listed company
– short term control, lack variance analysis
– no cash flow forecast for investment in new tech
– no measure on new tech and small web presence
– too many meaueres, but not really importantQ1.2. I suggest the following measures
– dividebd growth: 0%
– maker position ranking: 2018 5th and 2017 4th
– share price growth, but no infoQ1.3. Value chain analysis, I suggest
– HRM provide training to IT staff to make well use of web presence
– Procurement to conduct research on coat of new tech
– marketing and sales makes use of web presence with new creative idea after training to advertise to increase salesQ1.4. Big Data
I define what each V is.
– Volume: collect info about customers, and provide promotion and discount to target customer
– Verocity: collect info from customer fast so can delight customers.
– Variety: info in different form.Risk and challenge:
– data security
– no familiarity to new tech
– cost of it.June 6, 2018 at 3:43 pm #457064Q2.
A. Divisional manager performance:
– Green division manager that it is investment center, so control over capital investment and depreciation,
– Blue manager has a lot of uncontrollable factors like, no control over investment, political instability, factory closures, no these should not be included when measure his performance.
– in short, it’s about controllability.B.
Bases in current bonus system:
– Green manager should receive bonus, ROI Around 15.3%.
– Blue manager, not received because ROI is 14% due to different accounting policy on R&D capitalisation.ROI bad due to:
– short term measure so discourage capital investment
– not maximize sh/h wealth
– distorted due to accounting policiesC. RI
– positive RI increase sh/h weather
– short term measure, discourage capital investment.
– absolute measure good for decision making.June 6, 2018 at 3:54 pm #457072Q3. Corporate failiure
A. Argenti A score
It is qualitative measure. Score of 47 indicated at risk of failure.
The model cover 3 areas:
– Defect:
+ Management defect:
– Autocratic CEO
– Override control by bidding during FD I’ll and everyone in leave
+ Accounting defect: No– Mistakes:
+ High operational gearing 50%
+ Over trading: over use staff, long hours work
+ Failure of 1 big project: being sued by client and will result in big financial loss.– Symptoms:
+ Decreasing ratio: not known, only high gearing
+ Frozen salary: no
+ Decreasing morales: yes, as staff work long hours and some leave.B. How to improve:
– Change fixed salary to variable salary to avoid dismissal, so low gearing
– Convince staff to staff and go through tough situations together.C. Problem of Argenti model:
– not suitable for service provider like LP.* I don’t have much time for Q3 at all. So this is what I could answer.
Wish I pass!
June 6, 2018 at 4:00 pm #457074@sokty said:
Q2.B.
Bases in current bonus system:
– Green manager should receive bonus, ROI Around 15.3%.
– Blue manager, not received because ROI is 14% due to different accounting policy on R&D capitalisation.how did you calculate this 14% for Blue. As I remember they have 4m profit and 86m capital employed. There was no data nor hint to adjust these numbers for capitalised R&D at least as far as i remember.
June 6, 2018 at 4:01 pm #457075Billy do you remember the mark break down for q-3
June 6, 2018 at 4:06 pm #457085@sokty said:
Q3. Corporate failiureA. Argenti A score
It is qualitative measure. Score of 47 indicated at risk of failure.
The model cover 3 areas:
– Defect:
+ Management defect:
– Autocratic CEO
– Override control by bidding during FD I’ll and everyone in leave
+ Accounting defect: No– Mistakes:
+ High operational gearing 50%
+ Over trading: over use staff, long hours work
+ Failure of 1 big project: being sued by client and will result in big financial loss.– Symptoms:
+ Decreasing ratio: not known, only high gearing
+ Frozen salary: no
+ Decreasing morales: yes, as staff work long hours and some leave.B. How to improve:
– Change fixed salary to variable salary to avoid dismissal, so low gearing
– Convince staff to staff and go through tough situations together.C. Problem of Argenti model:
– not suitable for service provider like LP.* I don’t have much time for Q3 at all. So this is what I could answer.
Wish I pass!
Billy do you remember the mark break down for q-3
June 6, 2018 at 4:15 pm #457100I found the Value Chain question in Q1 iii difficult and Q1 ii hard as I just couldn’t think of anything that wasn’t there.
What did you guys put for Q4?
June 6, 2018 at 4:16 pm #457101I think it is 12, 7, 6 for Q3.
June 6, 2018 at 4:19 pm #457103For Blue, I don’t deduct depreciation and head office cost. So I get profit like $12m. I was not so sure either, as I did it last so I can comment in my calculations.
June 6, 2018 at 4:22 pm #457106how did u get 15.3% for green and blue??
June 6, 2018 at 4:22 pm #457107June 6, 2018 at 4:22 pm #457108How was it even possible to score 20 marks on the performance report?! It was a hard paper!
June 6, 2018 at 4:24 pm #457112same
uses the profit divided by capital employed for green but got less than targeted so i assume manager shall not be untitled to bonus
did this one wrongJune 6, 2018 at 4:24 pm #457113I don’t deduct head office cost as it is uncontrollable for both division.
June 6, 2018 at 4:29 pm #457116I did deduct the head office costs as it was uncontrollable
June 6, 2018 at 4:29 pm #457117@samie said:
Thank you BillyU r welcome. Any idea to share about the answer?
June 6, 2018 at 4:32 pm #457119@jax4671 said:
I did deduct the head office costs as it was uncontrollableIf sth is uncontrollable, it is not fair to measure duvusional manager performance. Thus, u should not deduct it to arrive at controllable Net profit.
Under the current bonus system, it just want us to use target ROI to compare, so calculate controllable profit if possible and get ROI to compare.
June 6, 2018 at 4:46 pm #457134@sokty said:
I choose Q1 Q2 Q3.
Q1.1.
I write sth like:
– it presents with revenue to show company sizes, but no growth
– use $m to present so not messy
– have EVA, in line with aim
– ROCE is not good for service provider
– have DPS, but no share price growth
– no KPI on largest retailer
– Lack long term trend for listed company
– short term control, lack variance analysis
– no cash flow forecast for investment in new tech
– no measure on new tech and currentky small web presence
– too many measures, but not really important
– Nonsense to compare between region A,B,C without any ratio
– lack external benchmarkingQ1.2. I suggest the following measures
– dividend growth: 0%
– maker position ranking: 2018 5th and 2017 4th
– share price growth, but no info to calculateQ1.3. Value chain analysis, I suggest
– HRM provide training to IT staff to make well use of small web presence
– Procurement to conduct research on cost of new tech
– Marketing and sales makes use of web presence with new creative idea after training to advertise to increase salesQ1.4. Big Data
I define what each V is.
– Volume: collect info about customers, and provide promotion and discount to target customer
– Verocity: collect info from customer fast so can delight customers. In rea industry, 1 min late can dissatisfy customers.
– Variety: info in different form like graph and table, processed and unprocessed data.Risk and challenge:
– information security on customers
– no familiarity to new tech for all businesses
– cost of obtaining new tech, but benefits should outweigh, so Chiveb should not be duscoraged from investment.June 6, 2018 at 4:51 pm #457138@acca145 said:
my answers are 90% similar of what Billy’s wrote. Billy answers are slightly better.I don’t know if I answer them correctly or not. I just write sth that came up to my mind at that time. I just know that I tried to relate to scenario as much as possible. Hopefully we pass, acca145!
Anyway, you can share sth here if there are some points I miss out.
I am so Keen to get exam results as soon as possible.
June 6, 2018 at 5:23 pm #457158For Q2 b) was ask to assess if Green / Blue Manager get the annual bonus.
Anyone use RI to calculate?
RI = Profit – (CE x WACC)
Green : +$2mil added value
Blue: -$9mil destroying valueI must say the question is vague, though ROI is the current measurement, but it did not ask the students to assess with ROI, given that one board member suggested the use of RI and capital structure 50:50 with 8% and 16% on cost (I think equity and debt respectively)
Maybe i’m wrong also since the 15% KPI was set for ROI
June 6, 2018 at 5:31 pm #457161First sitting of P5 and it’s my last paper. Fingers crossed for results in July. Relatively simple paper today so long as you studied the syllabus extensively. Good luck to everyone.
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