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Interest on loans

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  • This topic has 5 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 7 years ago by MikeLittle.
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  • April 28, 2018 at 5:57 am #449148
    drishti1234
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    Sir, can u even explain me why are we deducting 8% interest on loan notes form finance cost?

    April 28, 2018 at 6:14 am #449153
    MikeLittle
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    Yes, that’s an easy one!

    In the parent entity’s statement of profit or loss you should find an item that reads “Investment Income” or “Finance Income” or something similar

    That income in the parent entity’s records is the loan interest received from the subsidiary

    Upon consolidation, we account for the entities within the group as though they were combined into just one large single entity

    That means that we would be showing Finance Costs as an expense and that same money would also be shown as Finance Income – in other words we’re showing ourselves paying ourselves money … and that would be stupid

    So, on consolidation, we eliminate all those transactions that have taken place within the group and where no outside parties were involved

    OK?

    April 28, 2018 at 7:04 am #449156
    drishti1234
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    Sir am I correct if I say that, as it is intra co. Investment, the group receives the investment income and also have to pay off interest on it, this is the reason why we are adding interest on investment in subsidiary’s post acquisition profit and also deducting it from finance cost.

    Thankyou.

    April 28, 2018 at 7:34 am #449157
    MikeLittle
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    No (you’re possibly correct but I’m struggling to work out exactly what it is you’re saying – sorry)

    The loan was only taken out on the day of acquisition so the loan interest relates only to the post-acquisition period

    The profit for the year is shown and, normally, we assume unless told otherwise that profits are deemed to accrue evenly through the year

    But we ARE told otherwise because we know that the expense of the loan interest relates only to that post-acquisition period

    So, add back the loan interest to the year’s profit figure and arrive at $23

    Divide by 2 to get the pre-loan-interest profit split of $11.5 and $11.5

    Now deduct the loan interest from that second period’s figure

    The purpose of that exercise is to discover the retained earnings of the subsidiary as at date of acquisition and also to calculate the subsidiary’s post-acquisition retained figure

    Then we have the separate issue of cancellation of intra-group transactions

    When preparing the statement of profit or loss and the statement of financial position, we must eliminate from the consolidated statements all those items that are domestic / in-house transactions

    Within that category there is the intra-group loan and the corresponding intra-group loan interest

    For the purposes of the statement of profit or loss, deduct from the subsidiary’s figure the intra-group loan interest and then add across the figures for Finance Costs (remembering to time-apportion the figure for the subsidiary)

    From the Investment Income / Finance Income line, deduct from the parent’s figure the loan interest received from the subsidiary and then add across (again, remembering to time-apportion the figure for the subsidiary if appropriate)

    OK?

    April 28, 2018 at 7:45 am #449158
    drishti1234
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    Thankyou sir, now all my doubts are cleared!

    April 28, 2018 at 7:49 am #449159
    MikeLittle
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    That’s good, and you’re welcome

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