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Dec 2004 Q4 a ii. Woods Ltd. Please help

Forums › ACCA Forums › ACCA APM Advanced Performance Management Forums › Dec 2004 Q4 a ii. Woods Ltd. Please help

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  • June 6, 2010 at 9:05 am #44369
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    I have 4 dys to go, but i cant tick how the the examiner got the 16,165 units the minimum reduction.

    June 6, 2010 at 2:41 pm #61964
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    hmmm

    June 6, 2010 at 4:26 pm #61965
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    Assuming that sales volume of super kooler decrease by 10k then NPV is -2867 then if it falls by 20k then NPV is +1783. Therefore a fall by 10k i.e 20k-10k leads to a change in npv of 4650 i.e from -2867 to +1783 (put this on a number line) So when you divide the total change by the original npv i.e 2867/465= 6.165 but in 000′ therefore = 6.165*1000= 6165. cheers

    June 6, 2010 at 4:58 pm #61966
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    u started very well, wsebulime. but watch ur finishing. a further fall from 10k to somewhere before 20k is what u need to get 0 npv. thus 2867/4650×10,000 units = 6165.6 units. this added to the initial 10,000 units reduction gives 16165.6 units.

    June 7, 2010 at 6:39 am #61967
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    I have already answered this to your post on the Ask the Tutor forum, but I copy it again below:

    What he has done is the same idea as calculating an IRR – two guesses and approximate.

    I assume that you are happy with part (1) where he has calculated the NPV as (2866650) if sale drop by 10,000 units per year.

    Since sales would have to therefore drop by more that 10,000 units to get zero NPV (at which stage you would be prepared to start dropping SuperKooler) he has made a guess at a drop of 20,000 units and recalculated the NPV as +1782850. (You could have guessed differently – a drop of 30000 for example – and continued as below).

    Having got two NPVs (for 10000 units and for 20000 units drop) he then say that because one gave a – NPV and one gave a + NPV then for zero NPV is must be somewhere between 10000 and 20000. He then approximates between the two to get the drop giving an NPV of zero.

    So…..between 10000 units and 20000 units is a difference of (20000 – 10000) 10000 units. At the same time the NPV changes from -2866650 to +1782850 = a change in NPV of 4649500.

    If we start from 10000 units, (when the NPV is -2866650) then to get zero NPV we need the NPV to increase by 2866650.

    We know that a change of 4649500 needs a change of 10000 units, and so a change of 2866650 needs a change of 2866650/4649500 x 10000 units, which equals 6165 units. Add this to the original 10000 and you get 16165 units.

    (This assumes that the NPV changes linearly, which it will not do, so the answer is only approximate. If you had tried different that 20000 units for the second guess, then you would get a slightly different answer)

    (He has done exactly what I have done above – the reason he has written (1+….) at the beginning is simply for adding the 10,000 to the 6.165)

    Hope that helps!!

    June 8, 2010 at 3:55 pm #61968
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    Dear John, howexelent, wsebulime. That has been very helpful. With that i have a feeling that am crossing the red sea. Thank you once more

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