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- May 13, 2010 at 1:10 pm #43886
My question is following.I know that intercompany transactions must be eliminated.The solution in my book is not understandable.For example the parent company sold goods to its subsidiary for 625$,but cost of goods is 500$.Is the following adjustment correct?
Sales All sales -625
Cost of goods All cost of goods -500
Gross profit (All sales-625)- (All cost of goods-500)+(625-500-unrealized profit)May 14, 2010 at 4:52 pm #60350Yes! But try it this way – it’s easier! Eliminate from revenue and from cost of sales the value of the intra-group trade – in your example, deduct 625 from revenue and 625 from cost of sales. This adjustment is simply a deduction when adding the figures through to arrive at the consolidated position.
Now, having eliminated the trade, think about whether group closing inventory is over-valued – by the unrealised profit. Again, in your case, the 125. This overvaluation of inventory should be adjusted, so we need to increase cost of sales and thereby reduce gross profit. Clearly, to achieve this, we should ADD the 125 to cost of sales.
Our only concern now is “Whose cost of sales?”
I ALWAYS ( unless the deal involves an Associate company ) make the adjustment in the retained earnings of the company which has made the sale – therefore the company which has recognised the profit.
In your example, the 125 would be added to Parent’s cost of sales and therefore reduce the parent’s retained earnings.
This is important! If it had been subsidiary selling to parent, the subsidiary’s retained earnings would have been decreased. That will affect consolidated retained earnings AND it will affect your goodwill calculation.
May 14, 2010 at 8:48 pm #60351AnonymousInactive- Topics: 0
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i have a question.how is urp going to affect goodwill calculation even if the seller was sub.the only diff would that part of the urp would be deducted from nci depending on its %..and we calculate goodwill at acquisition and inter company transaction are adjusted for post acquisition only right.?then how?please elaborate
thanxMay 16, 2010 at 9:05 pm #60352You’re correct ciud3 – pup’s don’t affect goodwill. They are ( certainly at this level ) an adjustment to be made to post-acq profits and therefore feature in W3 ( cons ret ears ) and W4 ( nci )
August 16, 2015 at 9:15 pm #267437I have a specific situation where the parent has sold an asset classified as asset under construction to the subsidiary in amount of 600 dollars. The asset is AUC so there is no amortization. The parent has issued an invoice to the subsidiary and recorded an income in the total amount of 600 dollars and VAT, no profit or loss on sale. The subsidiary has a liability for the sale made. How is this transaction eliminated in consolidation?
TnxAugust 16, 2015 at 9:42 pm #267439It depends where the subsidiary has posted the debit entry!
On consolidation, the asset under construction needs to be eliminated as also does the current liability. That sorts out the statement of financial position
For the statement of profit or loss, we need to reduce revenue but I don’t know where the original debit has been posted in the subsidiary’s records. Wherever that debit was posted, that’s the account to credit in the combined statement of profit or loss
Ok?
August 17, 2015 at 8:19 am #267473The parent has posted a debit on receivable, vat and revenue on credit as one je and a credit on auc and debit on cost of sales.profit on sale is 15 $(correction to the question above).
The subsidiary has posted a debit on ppe and vat, credit on accounts payable.
The subsidiary will amortize the asset.
Is the same answer as above applicable?
TnxAugust 17, 2015 at 1:12 pm #267507Guessing vat rate of 20% and entries made, and saying that the asset is sold for 600 + vat, this is what I have:
Dr Receivables 720
Cr Revenue 600
Cr Vat 120Dr TNCA 600
Dr Vat 120
Cr Payables 720To get rid of the intra group problem we need to:
Dr Revenue 600
Cr TNCA 600Dr Payables 720
Cr Receivables 720Is that the same as your post?
August 17, 2015 at 1:42 pm #267510Yes it is, with one more entry
Dr AUC 585
Cr Cos 585Profit on sale is 15
August 17, 2015 at 4:42 pm #267530Other way round I believe – shouldn’t that be Dr Cost of Sales and Cr Asset under Construction?
August 18, 2015 at 8:35 pm #267679Hi Mike
Let me summarize on the solution above :
The parent ha as AUCs sold an asset classified to the subsidiary.
To record the sale the parent should post the following :Dr Receivable 720
Cr Revenue 600
Cr VAT 120Dr CoS 585
Cr AUC 585The subsidiary has posted the following :
Dr PPE 600
Dr VAT 120
Cr Acc.Payable 720To eliminate the intragroup transaction :
Dr Acc.Payable 720
Cr Acc. Receivable 720Dr Revenue 600
Cr PPE 600But what happens to cos and unrealised profit?
Also the asset was AUC in the parent but it will be amortized by the subsidiary. Doesn’t amortization have an effect in further consolidation ?
Could you please share your thoughts ?
TnxAugust 18, 2015 at 9:56 pm #267685Personally I wouldn’t have the transaction recorded in Revenue in the first place! I would transfer the asset under construction into a Disposal Account
Dr Disposal Account 585
Cr Asset under Construction Account 585Dr Receivables 720
Cr Disposal Account 720Dr Disposal Account 120
Cr Vat 120Balance off disposal account
Dr Disposal Account 15
Cr Profit or Loss Account 15In the subsidiary:
Dr TNCA 600
Dr Vat 120
Cr Payables 720On consolidation
Dr Payables 720
Cr Receivables 720Dr Retained Earnings 15
Cr TNCA 15That gets rid of all intra-group balances and eliminates the profit element of 15 recognised on transfer
Think these through and see now if you can agree
I really do NOT like your entry Dr Cos, Cr AuC
Which account within the Cost of Sales calculation are you going to debit?
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