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  • This topic has 6 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 7 years ago by John Moffat.
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  • January 21, 2018 at 5:41 am #431736
    joyce704445
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    I’m confused about this 2 question:

    Question 1.
    Wallace, a limited liability company acquired 60% of the voting share capital of Bruce on 1 February 20X8.

    You are presented with the following information for Wallace, and its subsidiary, Bruce. The income and expenses of Bruce accrued evenly over the year
    Statements of financial position as at 31 October 20X8

    Investment Wallace to Bruce are RM9,000.

    Indicate if the following will be included in or excluded from the consolidated statement of financial position of Wallace as at 31 October 20X8.

    Answer:

    Investment in Bruce <Excluded from>

    Explanation :

    On consolidation the investment in Bruce is replaced by the individual assets and liabilities of the subsidiary.

    Question 2:

    Hinge Co acquired an 80% investment, gaining control of Lock Co on 1 July 20X6.

    The draft statements of profit or loss for the two companies for the year ended 31 December 20X6 were as follows:

    Hinge Co Lock Co
    $ $
    Revenue 420,000 280,000
    Less: Cost of sales 273,000 194,000
    Gross Profit 147,000 86,000
    Less: Operating expenses 63,000 23,500
    Profit from operation 84,000 62,500
    Add: Investment income 8,000 0

    Complete the following table with the figures which will be reported in Hinge Co’s consolidated statement of profit or loss for the year ended 31 December 20X6.

    Answer:
    Consolidated statement of profit or loss for the year ended 31 December 20X6

    Revenue XX
    Cost of sales xx
    Operating exp xx
    Investment income <$8,000>

    This is the investment income of Hinge Co.

    MY QUESTION :

    2 question had diff answer of investment income when prepare consolidated financial statement.
    Question one mention is excluded (no need) but question 2 is show in financial position.

    I had confused now investment income from parent coy to subsidiary need
    present in consolidation financial position or not ?

    As i know is no need to show and should be elimated, isn’t? could anyone explain.

    Anyone can help me ? Thanks.

    January 21, 2018 at 10:40 am #431795
    John Moffat
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    The two questions are not comparable – one is asking about the SOFP and the second is asking about the SOPL.

    The cost of investments in a subsidiary is never shown in the consolidated SOFP.

    The consolidated SOPL shows all income of the group including any investment income (there is no mention of the investment income coming from the subsidiary).

    Please do watch my free lectures on consolidations. The lectures are a complete free course for Paper F3 and cover everything needed to be able to pass the exam well.

    January 22, 2018 at 2:23 am #431931
    joyce704445
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    Thanks for your kind explanation.
    So i understand now is question 2 is no mention is subsidiary investment income and is diff of SOPL and SOFP.

    How about if this is subsidiary investment income, do we need to disclose at SOPL ?
    Thanks in advance.

    January 22, 2018 at 3:03 am #431933
    joyce704445
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    Sorry, one more question.

    Fred opened a suspense account with a debit balance of $650. He discovered the following errors:

    (1) Bank interest received of $43 has been debited to the interest payable account and credited to the cash account
    (2) Cash sales of $710 have not been recorded in the sales account; the cash has been debited to cash at bank
    (3) Discounts received of $118 have only been debited to the payables control account

    What should the balance on the suspense account be after these errors have been corrected?

    $58 Dr

    $178 Dr

    $1,242 Dr

    $1478 Dr

    Answer is :
    Correct Answer
    $1,478 Dr

    Suspense account
    Dr ($) Cr ($)
    Opening balance 650
    Discounts received 118
    Sales 710 Closing balance 1,478
    1,478 1,478

    MY QUESTION:

    (2)Cash sales not record in sales account, and sales is credit But why the suspense ac is put at debit ?

    And (3) is also same, discount received 118, should be credit in purchase…

    isn’t because after all the correction is done, (2) will be credit sales, debit suspense account ? and also (3) is same as (2). credit purchase, debit suspense.

    January 22, 2018 at 10:19 am #432014
    John Moffat
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    For (2), to correct the mistake we need to credit sales and therefore we debit the suspense account. The entry in the suspense account is always the ‘opposite’ of the correcting entry.

    For (3) the correcting entry is to credit discount received account, and therefore we debit the suspense account.

    Have you watched my free lectures on suspense accounts?

    (With reference to your earlier question, dividends from subsidiaries are not examinable in Paper F3)

    January 22, 2018 at 12:32 pm #432057
    joyce704445
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    Yes.Thanks for ur kind reply.

    Sorry, one more question from free lectures about depreciation of revalued asset.

    from lectures note pg.31.

    Purpurs has a year end of 31 December each year.

    In his Statement of Financial Position as at 31 December 2002 he has buildings at a cost of
    $3,600,000 and accumulated depreciation of $1,080,000.
    His depreciation policy is to charge 2% straight line.
    On 30 June 2003, the building is to be revalued at $3,072,000. There is no change in the remaining
    estimated useful life of the building.
    Show the relevant ledger accounts for the year to 31 December 2003.

    My question:
    When a non-current asset has been revalued, depreciation charge will be higher than it was before revaluation.
    and the double entry of depreciation revalued $44,522 is debit to depreciation expenses and x mention credit to where.

    but i can see as pass year question 2016.

    On 1 April 2015, F Co revalued a property. As a result, the annual depreciation charge
    increased by $20,000 as compared to depreciation based on historical cost. The company
    wishes to make the allowed transfer of excess depreciation between the revaluation
    surplus and retained earnings in accordance with IAS 16 Property, Plant and Equipment.
    Immediately before the transfer was made, retained earnings and the revaluation surplus
    were as follows:

    Retained earnings $875,000
    Revaluation surplus $200,000

    What should be the balance on the retained earnings and revaluation surplus accounts
    after the transfer?

    The answer is Debit revaluation surplus ??
    and credit retained earnings.

    May i know what is the correct debit entry ?
    Thanks ~~~

    January 23, 2018 at 7:54 am #432289
    John Moffat
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    You must start a new thread when you are asking a new question. It is so that everyone can benefit from the answers – we cannot give free private tuition 🙂

    The entry for charging depreciation (whether there has been a revaluation or not) is always debit depreciation expense and credit accumulated depreciation.

    When there is been a revaluation, the excess of the new depreciation over the old depreciation is debit revaluation surplus and credit retained earnings (just have you have typed!).

    All of this is explained in my free lectures.

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