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Newly Qualified Salary in West Midlands

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  • This topic has 12 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 7 years ago by pchahal.
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  • November 8, 2017 at 11:21 am #414825
    pchahal
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    Hi,

    Was just curious on people’s views on salary for a newly qualified ACCA accountant with 3 years experience prior qualification in the west midlands?

    I work at a small practice and i have had experience in preparing accounts and also did a secondment in payroll for 1 year. However i had not yet had the opportunity to go out on audits. I also had experience supervising a junior while in payroll.

    What would i expect after i recieve my ACCA quaification? I do not intend to stay at my current firm based on the poor salary while i was training (under 20k)

    November 8, 2017 at 11:54 am #414830
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    According to this link, ~£40k

    https://www.artisrecruitment.co.uk/Media/Artis%20AF%20Salary%20Survey%202017.pdf

    Salaries tend to be higher in industry than in small practices, so depends on where you want your career to go?

    November 8, 2017 at 12:26 pm #414833
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    Hi, thanks for the response. Is that really possible for my salary to shoot up that high after being on a salary below 20k? I do intend to work in industry or public sector, i believe there are better prospects as an accountant in those sectors.

    November 8, 2017 at 2:11 pm #414854
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    It’s possible yes – I’d say you’re being underpaid at below 20k, depending on how many exams you have completed.

    However you need to be smart in your salary negotiations with your new job. For a start, do not tell them your current salary, even if they ask. This guarantees they will only offer you a low salary again.

    November 8, 2017 at 3:14 pm #414869
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    I have completed 10 exams including one professional paper i am now studying for my 2nd professional paper P7 after that will have 3 papers remaining which i hope to complete by the end of 2018. Yes that is true, however what if they ask about my previous salary and my expectations ?

    November 8, 2017 at 3:40 pm #414876
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    Don’t tell them your current salary, even if they insist. Deflect this question if you have to. If you really, really need to you can say your expectations but avoid doing this until you’ve actually been offered the job.

    Read this article – it’s American but most of it applies.

    https://www.kalzumeus.com/2012/01/23/salary-negotiation/

    What you need to do is change your mindset a little and treat a job offer and salary negotiation as a two way business transaction rather than being scared of recruiters/managers and letting them have all the power and dictate to you.

    As you’re over halfway through your exams I’d say you could probably get a significant payrise by moving right now, if you wanted to. Depends on if you think the experience and other benefits you get in your current role are worth staying for.

    November 8, 2017 at 3:47 pm #414877
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    Thankyou for the link il have a look at that. I agree with you in regards to moving jobs. However i am in a contract with my current firm until i complete all exams. If i was to leave early id have to pay back all the exams i had taken with them. I was wondering if it was worth riding it out until the end of 2018 (when i complete all papers), and then consider working elsewhere?

    November 8, 2017 at 4:49 pm #414886
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    Well that’s a decision you’d have to weigh up.

    Pros of leaving:

    – Get paid more
    – Possibly broaden your experience depending on the role

    Cons of leaving:

    – Will have to pay back exam fees. These clauses have actually been shown to be unenforceable in practice, but it’s up to you whether you’d want to fight that battle, which leads on to my next point…
    – Could damage your relationship with your current employer, which could come back to bite you in the future
    – If you choose the wrong job you could get lower quality experience than you do now
    – Changing job is a risk, you can be fired more easily from a new job

    Bear in mind that your current employer is not going to offer you anything like 40k when you qualify if you’re on less than 20k now, even if that’s the going rate. Does your contract stipulate you have to stay with them for a certain amount of time after qualifying to avoid paying back fees?

    November 8, 2017 at 6:46 pm #414896
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    Yes i think it does. 1 yr post qualifying

    November 10, 2017 at 11:58 am #415091
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    So if you stay in this job you’re probably going to be underpaid for at least 2 more years – 1 year ’til you finish the exams and 1 year afterwards.

    Might be worth having a conversation with your manager to see if they’d consider giving you a raise. Say that the market rate for a part qualified accountant with a couple of years experience is significantly above what you’re getting now and you would like a raise to get you closer to that level, considering you’re getting towards the end of your exams and have a couple of years (?) experience now. Don’t ask don’t get!

    November 10, 2017 at 12:10 pm #415093
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    Yes that is true. however i doubt they will as i heard that small independent practices don’t tend to offer much to accountants and usually are undervalued in practice. So i was considering moving to a larger organisation in public sector or industry perhaps.

    November 10, 2017 at 12:34 pm #415095
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    Well, have the conversation and if the outcome is not satisfactory then you can look for other jobs. I would imagine you could significantly increase your salary now which may make it worth paying back any exam fees.

    November 10, 2017 at 12:46 pm #415097
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    Yes i will consider that. I’ll stick around for 1 more year until i pass and see what offers they can provide.

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