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  • July 17, 2017 at 3:26 pm #397060
    kengara
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    HI my dear Tutor, I have two questions

    1st) An investment of 120000$ on 1 April is forecast to yield a net cash flow of $14000 each year for four years commencing on 31 March 2017,followed by $20000 each year in perpetuity.The appropriate cost of capital is 8% per year

    What is the positive net present value of the investment?

    a)$80000
    b)$81000
    c)$93000
    d)$110000

    2nd) An investment of $100000 to be made on 31 december 2017 will produce an annual return of 13000$ in perpetuity with the first income occuring on 1 January 2018?

    13000/0.1-100000/1.1=39090

    which forumula i have to follow, let me explain it on formula then i will understand.i need your help

    July 17, 2017 at 4:13 pm #397073
    John Moffat
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    1. For the 14,000 a year for 4 years, you multiply 14,000 by the 4 year annuity factor at 8% from the tables provided.
    For the 20,000 a year from year 5 in perpetuity, you calculate the discount factor by either using the perpetuity factor of 1/r (i.e. here 1/0.08) and subtract the 4 year annuity factor – so you are left with the total from 5 to infinity. (Alternatively, multiply by 1/r for the perpetuity and then multiply by the present value factor for 4 years at 8% because the perpetuity starts 4 years late. The answers will be slightly different because of roundings in the tables, but to the nearest 1,000 it makes no difference).

    2. 1 Jan 2018 is effectively the same day as 31 Dec 2017 – we are never worried about just 1 day of interest. So the PV of the first 13,000 is 13,000. There is then 13,000 in perpetuity and the discount factor is 1/r which here is 1/0.1 (I am assuming that the interest is 10% – you have not said). So the PV of the perpetuity is 130,000.

    So the NPV is 130,000 + 13,000 – 100,000 = 43,000

    Does your book not have answers together with workings? And have you watched all of the free lectures on this?

    July 17, 2017 at 7:39 pm #397140
    kengara
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    The book does not show the working that is why i asked.

    July 17, 2017 at 7:50 pm #397142
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    it says from April 2016 to 2017 so we ignore 2016 and 2017 and consider to discount factor for 5 years?but why five years if there is April 2016 to 2017 and till 2020 it will be four yeas.this part became unclear for me.I watched your lecture video also did not comprehend((((((((

    July 18, 2017 at 8:01 am #397265
    John Moffat
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    Your original question made no mention of April 2016!

    If the initial investment is on 1 April 2016, then the first flow on 31 March 2017 is one year later. The question says that there are 4 flows of 14,000 and therefore the flows are years 1 to 4 and to discount you multiply by the 4 year annuity discount factor.

    I have no idea why you want to ignore 2016 and 2017 and consider a discount factor for 5 years.

    July 18, 2017 at 11:25 am #397336
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    Year—–Cash flow——-discount factor of 8%
    0———–(120000)
    1———–14000—————0.926
    2———–14000————–0.857
    3———-14000————–0.794
    4———-14000————0.735
    5———-14000————-0.681
    ——————————–3.993-0.926=3.067*14000=42938

    then (1/0.08)-3.993*20000=170140
    120000-42938-170140=93000

    why we take into consideration 5 years not four years?in the exercise it says four years?

    July 18, 2017 at 2:40 pm #397368
    John Moffat
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    I assume that these are your workings (since your book does not have workings), in which case I don’t know what you are doing!!

    First, it is a complete waste of time writing down 5 discount factors and then adding them up!! You are given tables for the annuity factors and you can look up the 3.993 directly from the tables.

    Secondly, you have still not said when the initial investment was made. If it was on 1 April 2016, then the flows of $14,000 a year are for years 1 to 4.
    If the question says that the initial investment was on 1 April 2015, the the flows are for years 2 to 5, in which case the answer as you have written it is correct.

    July 18, 2017 at 4:23 pm #397401
    kengara
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    1st) An investment of 120000$ on 1 April 2016 is forecast to yield a net cash flow of $14000 each year for four years commencing on 31 March 2017,followed by $20000 each year in perpetuity.The appropriate cost of capital is 8% per year

    What is the positive net present value of the investment?

    a)$80000
    b)$81000
    c)$93000
    d)$110000

    Should be 2016 I am sorry that i have not written it:(

    July 18, 2017 at 4:24 pm #397402
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    My Dear Tutor i know in the exam it will be given but why 3.993 is the result of 5 years not 4 years.

    July 19, 2017 at 8:57 am #397499
    John Moffat
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    5 years is of no relevance.

    As I wrote in my first answer, the flows are:

    0 (120,000)
    1 – 4 14,000 p.a.
    5 – infinity 20,000 p.a.

    The PV of 14,000 per year is 14,000 x 3.312 (the 4 year annuity factor) = 46,368

    The PV of the perpetuity is 20,000 x (1/0.08 – 3.312) = 183,760

    The NPV = 43,368 + 183,760 – 120,000 = 107,128

    If your book has the answer as 93,000, then this would only be correct if the initial investment was on 1 April 2015. It seems as though there is an error in your book.

    (If it is in the BPP Revision Kit, or in an ACCA specimen exam, then say which question and then I can check,)

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