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Question revenue contract

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  • April 18, 2017 at 5:46 pm #382516
    kengara
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    Hi Tutor, I know I am asking some exceptional questions but I really need to know it and it is my weak point that I am concentrating to make it strong
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    In your explanation, you said that 14400 is instantly recognised as revenue but in the trial balance preparation of P/L it has not been included in the revenue section and only 1600$’s 400(1200 deducted and 400 added) has been included in the revenue.Also, the rest has been divided into such as 400 deferred revenue as current liability and 800 non current liability.
    Please could you explain it by giving its debit and credit, I really find hardships to comprehend it.I am stuck in this question about already two days.
    Thanks in advance.

    My question is that why it has not been included?

    Revenue (267,900 – 1,200 (w (i)) + 18,750 (w (ii))) 285,450
    Cost of sales (w (iii)) (192,500) ––––––––
    Gross profit 92,950
    Distribution costs (20,000)
    Administrative expenses (22,000)
    Other operating income from royalties 300
    Finance costs (150 + 2,206 (w (v))) (2,356) ––––––––
    Profit before tax 48,894
    Income tax expense (11,400 + 1,550 – 1,100 (w (vi))) (11,850) ––––––––
    Profit for the year 37,044
    Other comprehensive income Items that will not be reclassified to profit or loss
    Gain on revaluation of land and buildings (2,000 + 7,200) (w (iv)) 9,200 ––––––––
    Total comprehensive income for the year 46,244 ––––––––

    Part of SFTP

    Non-current liabilities
    Deferred tax (w (vi)) 3,700
    Deferred revenue (w (i)) 800
    5% convertible loan note (2018) (w (v)) 28,276 –––––––
    Current liabilities
    Trade payables 46,400
    Deferred revenue (w (i)) 400
    Bank overdraft 2,700
    Current tax payable 11,400

    Product and servicing sale Under IFRS 15 Revenue from Contracts with Customers, sales made which include revenue for on-going servicing work must have part of the revenue deferred and any discount offered to stand-alone selling prices must (normally) be allocated to each component pro rata to the stand-alone selling prices. The stand-alone selling price of the product and the servicing work would be $20 million ($18 million and $2 million (500 x 4 years) respectively). The actual combined selling price of $16 million represents a 20% discount on the stand-alone selling prices ((20,000 – 16,000)/(18,000 + 2,000)). Thus the sales revenue of $16 million would be allocated $14·4 million (18,000 x 80%) to the product and $1·6 million (2,000 x 80%) to the servicing. At 31 March 2016 there are three more years of servicing work, thus $1·2 million ((1,600 x 3 years/4 years) must be treated as deferred revenue, split $400,000 as a current liability and $800,000 as a non-current liability.

    The actual combined selling price of $16 million represents a 20% discount on the stand-alone selling prices”- from my perspective, this is only a 10% discount! The aggregate price of the contract is $16 million + $500,000 x 4 years giving a total of $18,000,000 and that’s a discount of 10% when compared with the ‘normal’ prices of $18 million + $2,000,000 service charges

    So, of the $16,000,000 sale price, we’re going to recognise 90% of that figure = $14,400,000

    There is a TOTAL contract value of $18,000,000 of which we’re recognising $14,400,000 immediately as revenue and that leaves us with $3,600,000 to mess around with

    Of that $3,600,000 $500,000 is taken as revenue in each of 4 years so that leaves us with just $1,600,000 to allocate and, since it’s a four year contract, we’ll take $400,000 in each of the four years

    That’s $400,000 this year and $400,000 next year (so that’s current) and the remainder of $800,000 taken in years 3 and 4 so they are deferred beyond 12 months

    You ask “Why do I have to recognize revenue only 400 and not 3600?”

    $2,000,000 of that $3,600,000 relates to ongoing service obligations and is spread over the 4 year period. That $2,000,000 will be the subject of 4 separate invoices of $500,000 each in each of the 4 years so none of that amount is recognised as deferred and is recognised instead as revenue in each of those years of service

    The remainder of $1,600,000 I believe I have explained above

    OK?

    April 18, 2017 at 6:07 pm #382518
    kengara
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    What about single product?Really confuse in this part.
    debit cash-16000
    credit revenue from product-14400-here is problem?
    credit revenu from service-1600

    On going-service

    Debit trade receivable-1600
    credit Contract liability-1200
    credit revenue-400
    1st year
    debit contract liability-400
    credit revenue-400
    at the end
    debit cash-1600
    credit-trade receivable-1600

    April 18, 2017 at 8:04 pm #382527
    MikeLittle
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    You ask “My question is that why it has not been included?”

    It surely HAS been included! Your earlier post started with “Included in revenue was $16,000 …..”

    So the answer is taking out the $1,200 of which $400 is classed as a current liability and the remainder classed as a deferred liability

    That’s the $1,200 in the revenue line “Revenue (267,900 – 1,200 (w (i)) + 18,750 (w (ii))) 285,450”

    You have shown this entry for the $16,000 cash received

    “debit cash-16000
    credit revenue from product-14400-here is problem?
    credit revenu from service-1600”

    Concentrate on that $1,600

    Of that amount $400 is this year’s revenue, $400 is next year’s revenue and $800 is revenue relating to periods more than 12 months hence

    Thus we can now ‘deal’ with that $1,600:

    Dr revenu from service-1600
    Cr This year’s revenue $400
    Cr Current liabilities $400
    Cr Deferred liabilities $800

    Is that any better?

    April 18, 2017 at 8:26 pm #382537
    kengara
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    Yea Thank you very much for extended explanation.Fantastic!

    This is question’s note
    (i) ”Revenue includes an amount of $16 million for a sale”(key word is here, ) made on 1 April 2015. The sale relates to a single product and includes ongoing servicing from Downing Co for four years. The normal selling price of the product and the servicing would be $18 million and $500,000 per annum ($2 million in total) respectively.

    April 18, 2017 at 8:42 pm #382539
    MikeLittle
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    So, you’re sorted out now?

    That’s good

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