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Tax charge with overestimate from last year

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  • February 2, 2017 at 4:21 pm #370788
    eiman
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    A company’s trial balance shows a debit balance of $2.1 million brought forward on current tax and a credit
    balance of $5.4 million on deferred tax. The tax charge for the current year is estimated at $16.2 million and
    the carrying amounts of net assets are $13 million in excess of their tax base. The income tax rate is 30%
    What amount will be shown as income tax in the statement of profit or loss for the year?
    A $15.6 million
    B $12.6 million
    C $16.8 million .. correct answer
    D $18.3 million

    Charge for year 16,200
    Underprovision 2,100
    Adjust deferred tax (W) (1,500)
    Profit or loss charge =16,800

    Working
    Provision needed (13m × 30%) 3,900
    Provision b/f (5,400)
    Reduce provision =(1,500)

    Income tax expense = current income taxes – overestimate of deferred income taxes from last year ( because it was not recorded in income tax expenses last year in P&L statement causing net income to be understated)
    Income tax expense = 16,200 – [5,400 – (13m × 30%) ]
    Income tax expense = 14,700

    can anyone tell me the reason why we have to deduct the amount of the (debit balance of current tax from the trial balance) ?

    February 2, 2017 at 4:27 pm #370793
    MikeLittle
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    Where exactly is $2.1 million DEDUCTED?

    February 2, 2017 at 4:36 pm #370797
    eiman
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    sorry added.

    Charge for year 16,200
    Underprovision 2,100
    Adjust deferred tax (W) (1,500)
    Profit or loss charge =16,800

    February 2, 2017 at 4:59 pm #370803
    MikeLittle
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    Because it was under-provided last year – ie it wasn’t deducted within last year’s taxation expense in last year’s statement of profit or loss so it’s added on to this year’s estimated liability and therefore also on to this year’s expense

    OK?

    February 2, 2017 at 5:08 pm #370807
    eiman
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    1- but why we take it directly $2.1 from T.B. whithout having to compare it against any other figure. (actual – estimated)
    while credit balance of $5.4 million on deferred tax, we take the difference of what actually is and what was estimated.

    2- what the scenario other than that it was a net(loss) so no tax expesnses were charged? what other than that ?

    3- what if it was a credit balance ? what could be the scenario ?

    February 2, 2017 at 5:59 pm #370815
    MikeLittle
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    Oh dear – have you tried the mini-exercises at the back end of the free course notes ?

    There are 16 (?) examples from past exams of these calculations

    May I ask that you work through those and then come back to me

    In addition, if you look through past posts on this forum page, you’ll find detailed workings where I have set out the debits and credits for both deferred tax and current tax accounts

    And this you MUST do – this topic is typically worth 4 – 6 marks in an F7 exam

    February 3, 2017 at 5:19 pm #370947
    eiman
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    Hi Mike, I listened to you, I tried solving the mini – exercises from opentution, It got more complicated. The answers lack the calculation, they put straight the number without writing how they arrived to the answer. for example this question below:

    Question 2
    Trial balance extract at 30 September, 2008
    Income tax (credit balance) 400
    Deferred tax liability 11,200
    The balance of income tax in the trial balance represents the under/over provision of the previous year’s estimate. The estimated income
    tax liability for the year ended 30 September 2008 is $18.7 million. At 30 September 2008 there were $40 million of taxable temporary
    differences. The income tax rate is 25%. Note: you may assume that the movement in deferred tax should be taken to the Statement of
    Profit or Loss.

    Answer 2
    Dr DT 1,200
    Cr CT 1,200
    Dr P or L 17,100
    Cr CT 17,100

    from where they brought the 1,200 ? how they calculated the 17,100 ? It is not helping me!

    February 3, 2017 at 7:30 pm #370961
    MikeLittle
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    Deferred tax liability brought forward $11,200

    Tax differences $40,000

    Tax rate 25%

    25% x $40,000 = $10,000

    $11,200 – $10,000 = ????

    FOLLOW THIS!!!

    Open 2 T accounts, one for Deferred Tax and one for Current Tax

    Put in the brought forward figures (F3 level book-keeping)

    Put in the 10,000 carried forward figure in the deferred tax account and carry that figure forwards

    Balance off the deferred tax account and double enter the missing figure into the current tax account

    You’re given the estimated liability for this year based on this year’s results

    Carry that figure down in the current tax account (F3 stuff, this. I’m embarrassed having to tell you!)

    Balance off the current tax account and you’ll find the figure $17,100!

    Try it! It’s easy!

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