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- December 7, 2016 at 10:32 am #354890December 7, 2016 at 5:02 pm #355107
I found the exam very very time pressured. There were allot of easy questions, but was hard to apply the basic knowledge to the actual scenario. Really hoping i scrape a pass.
December 7, 2016 at 5:06 pm #355110the time pressure was worse for me. I attempted question 4 and stopped halfway when I realized I was writing nonsense. I eventually spent less than 45 mins on questions 2 and 3.
I’m just hoping for a miracle
December 7, 2016 at 5:08 pm #355111Anonymous
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what was question 1(d) i ?
Does anyone remember
December 7, 2016 at 5:10 pm #355114Anonymous
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Some questions, especially #4, were very confusing. It seemed to me that all the parts were requesting the same…
Some strange mix of questions in Q#1. Strange purpose of the letter, strange everything 🙂
December 7, 2016 at 5:10 pm #355115I thought Questions 2,3 & 4 were all reasonable it was relatively easy to apply technical knowledge.
– COSO
– Integrated Reporting
– Professional ethics
– RelativismThere were a few strange elements in Q1 though, not sure if I scored any marks for the letter question (apart from the 4 professional marks for layout!). I just couldn’t work out what they wanted me to do!
Fingers crossed for a kind marker 🙂
December 7, 2016 at 5:16 pm #355117Anonymous
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Time pressure!
It’s now that I’m remembering some little little silly mistakes.
However, I’m still hoping for 50 marksDecember 7, 2016 at 5:18 pm #355120In all honesty the exam was not hard but they expect students to lose their hands. How much shall you write!!!
I did question 4 first. Ethical threats alot of self interest going on fairly straight forward.
Then i went onto the monster. I spent too long on unitary board that the time was ticking i cudnt write much for the letter. Was rather confusing what to write anyways.
So lastly question i just put pen to paper so my chances are slim of passing. Gutted. Why is time management such a issue for me!
December 7, 2016 at 5:32 pm #355132Think overall it was OK, but alot was confusing especially question 4. To me question a and b pretty much asked the same thing, or at least I had already answered part b in my answer in a which was huge. the same answer for both bits for a) and b) for the ethical threats and why they were bad and how the guy didn’t adhere to the acca code of ethics. I didn’t really get what more it wanted. Then ended up just writing nonsense pulling in random bits from all over the syllabus.
Then the letter part in question 1 I just wrote a letter to the shareholder basically summarising what I had already answered in the other questions, which was justifying the 2 tier boards and how in future the communication between boards would be better, then made up a bunch of stuff about how their investments were essential to the business and they should stay there. I think that’s what question asked but not sure where 18marks were supposed to come from. Also don’t agree with acca doing questions about writing letters, it’s a bit of a nonsense.
December 7, 2016 at 5:34 pm #355136The exam was semi ok . I did questions obv 1 , 2 and 4
I finished everything within 3 hours… Probably i didn’t write enough???
My threats were
Self Review
Intimidation
Familiarity – “assumed he developed a close relationship with the FD”For the Information Question
I wrote out the qualities of good information then explained why it was important
Question 1 – I explained the benefits of having the two tiered board but then explained the disadvantages. Then stated that the non execs although qualified in terms of financial reporting, they did not have the requisite knowledge of the core activities.
Then since control management and strategic objective development such structures act as a barrier for effective communication etc etc
Internal Controls
Failed to prevent and detect fraud and error
Failed to safeguard the “assets”
Failed to detect deviations from the agreed Risk AppetiteDecember 7, 2016 at 5:38 pm #355142Frankly speaking the paper this time around was bearable. Time pressure was a pain, 12-14 marks to spare. The unconditional 15 minutes of extra time given to us is not very useful, as reading the question hogs up the time. Disappointed. Q1& Q2, is the only saving grace now. Examiner ! Plz be kind.
December 7, 2016 at 5:39 pm #355143Exactly… I just wrote back what I put in part b
Just said he should have disclosed his interest
Asked an independent accountant to review the accounts to get their findings
Consult with relevant internal authorities (compliance officer) or if they are aware of the activities the appropriate external authorities .. eg regulatory authorities.December 7, 2016 at 5:43 pm #355151December 7, 2016 at 5:43 pm #355152Is that writing the letter to shareholders about importance of corporate governance reporting? 10marks I didn’t know what to write : (
December 7, 2016 at 5:44 pm #355154I feel the same way, it totally threw me. and gosh 18 marks!!
December 7, 2016 at 5:45 pm #355155I thought it was an OK paper overall. Quite time pressured, really struggle to write so much though.
For the institutional investors, I wrote about the fact that using mendelow matrix, they have high power/interest, so key players and then explained that SCC by being transparent led to them thinking about long term and not leaving with short ten issues. If they do leave, then giving their stakeholding away could lead to big impact on share price. Support: related it to their shareholder activism.
For question 2 and the objectives I wrote about the objectives and how shank had not each them, I wrote about the coso as well as prevention and detection of fraud and timeliness of financial information. The agency theory was OK
For the information but listed the 8 characteristics and then related some to monitoring the system as well as being managed on firm. The ethics was in, just stated that fraud would never be the correct outcomeoutcome especially as fortune may end up in financial difficulties.I chose q4, spoke about the ethical issues. Misread part b. And refered to fundamental principals, instead of independence. Still did the safeguards.. Would I still get marks for this? Part c was ethical dilemma resolution, spoke about gaining facts, establishing ethical issues, refer to principals, looking at internal procedures, looking at alternative courses of actions, then speaking to relevant people inside and outside firm and then if not resolved withdrawing from role.
December 7, 2016 at 5:52 pm #361955Hi Christa, How do you feel did you pass/fail? My answer seem similar to yours, though I can justify threats and marks for 4a?
December 7, 2016 at 6:12 pm #360292God I can’t believe a lot of people have had the same problems. I felt in Q4 that the B and C was the same! The a was about ethical threats although worth 10 marks there were only 3 threats!! But I felt b and c I repeated my self. Q1d the letter I can not justify 18 marks!!! I didn’t understand what they wanted
December 7, 2016 at 6:21 pm #361973Guys,
I wrongly labelled ticked that I answered question 3 instead of question 4. I also shaded question 3 instead of 4 on the exam paper.
What can i do? Has this happened to anyone else here?
December 7, 2016 at 6:21 pm #361974@danistephens said:
I thought Questions 2,3 & 4 were all reasonable it was relatively easy to apply technical knowledge.
– COSO
– Integrated Reporting
– Professional ethics
– RelativismThere were a few strange elements in Q1 though, not sure if I scored any marks for the letter question (apart from the 4 professional marks for layout!). I just couldn’t work out what they wanted me to do!
Fingers crossed for a kind marker 🙂
When you say COSO are you referring to the “risk framework” question? I answered with ALARP, in hindsight probably not what they were looking for as this is a principle rather than a framework :(Didnt cop it at the time. Hopefully I get one or two marks anyway! Was this a 6 mark question do you recall?
December 7, 2016 at 6:30 pm #361980The paper was really OK but this is the first time I felt time pressure on me, especially with Q1.
About the letter to shareholders: in the end of the case there were paragraphs about how shareholders dissapointed with this, how they don’t like that and so forth. So in my opinion the letter should have been about those concerns and how Mrs. Woo was going to deal with it. Also it was told that 4$ price is not a good deal and the company decided to reject the offer but the shareholder hadn’t been awared about it. So the letter should also justify the decision.
December 7, 2016 at 6:49 pm #361990Hi Chives,
Yep that was for the Risk Framework, think it was 8 marks maybe? Wasn’t sure if COSO was the correct approach as I could only briefly mention each of the points (I ran through the COI-MICRA steps), probably rushed it a bit buttried to relate to the scenario where poss!
December 7, 2016 at 6:56 pm #361995@danistephens said:
Hi Chives,Yep that was for the Risk Framework, think it was 8 marks maybe? Wasn’t sure if COSO was the correct approach as I could only briefly mention each of the points (I ran through the COI-MICRA steps), probably rushed it a bit buttried to relate to the scenario where poss!
Cheers! Yeah I think COSO would have been spot on there!
December 7, 2016 at 7:09 pm #362009Anyone else thinks that Q4 marking scheme was flawed?
The first requirement handed 10 marks with only 3 ethical threats identifiable in the scenario while the last requirement asking for an ethical decision model rewarded 5 marks, misleading us to use Tucker model whereas AAA model was more appropriate.
December 7, 2016 at 7:09 pm #362010@tobidmob2 said:
Guys,I wrongly labelled ticked that I answered question 3 instead of question 4. I also shaded question 3 instead of 4 on the exam paper.
What can i do? Has this happened to anyone else here?
I wouldnt worry about it!
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