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- June 30, 2016 at 2:11 am #324432
Hi Mike,
I have watched all your lectures of Group account. It’s very helpful for me but my skill english doesn’t well to understand at all. Can you explain some question for me?
1. Share capital and share premium of subsidiary always unchanged?
2. Contingent liability of subsidiary should be accounted in Group, I don’t understand why? it doesn’t certain for obligation?
3. For consolidated of CI , why just include dividend of parent and ignore % dividend of parent in sub?Thank you in advance,
Thao HuyenJune 30, 2016 at 6:49 am #324447“1. Share capital and share premium of subsidiary always unchanged?” – yes, and always totally pre-acquisition
“2. Contingent liability of subsidiary should be accounted in Group, I don’t understand why? it doesn’t certain for obligation?” – I think that you’re probably referring to the contingent liability of the parent that the parent will have to pay out extra consideration if the liability crystallises as a result of, for example, the newly-acquired subsidiary hitting performance targets
Why include it? Because IFRS 3 says that we must! It’s exceptional in terms of being a contingency that is recognised (as distinct from being merely disclosed)
However, if you were referring to a contingent liability of the subsidiary, and why do we include it within group financial statements, again the answer lies in IFRS 3
The effect of including these contingent liabilities (always pre-acquisition) is to increase the value of goodwill on acquisition and that goodwill figure is then subjected to an annual impairment review
“3. For consolidated of CI , why just include dividend of parent and ignore % dividend of parent in sub?”
The statement of profit or loss / comprehensive income is a statement of results / performance for the GROUP. From a group point of view we are looking to report those matters that concern the group and its activities with the outside world
An intra-group transaction (like intra-group sales, intra-group management fees and dividends from subsidiaries and associates) are not activities that involve the outside world. If we’re not going to include the parent’s share of the subsidiary’s dividend as an income, then we should also exclude the parent’s share of the subsidiary’s dividend as an appropriation
Is that better?
June 30, 2016 at 3:17 pm #324475It makes clearly now.
Thank you very much, my teacher 🙂June 30, 2016 at 4:15 pm #324484You’re welcome
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