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- May 13, 2016 at 11:17 am #314915
hello sir. i have prepared p7 last month till now . self study. i was failed p7 in december i was dissapointed and so decided to not to resit in march exams. i have one paper more that is p3 i will attempt p3 in september. all my papers are pass . i have to styddy just p7 now. please give me some tips to make final revesion of p7 . as there are only few days left. i am very depressed and i am not confident yet. i have done many question in writing from kit. still every time i found a new question very difficult. my another problem that it takes much time by me to write a question. what should i do to make my writing fast. last time my last question was left due to not having time. and i got 45.
May 13, 2016 at 12:29 pm #314927“last time my last question was left due to not having time. and i got 45”
How could that happen? Surely, even in Pakistan you had the full three hours for the exam plus 15 minutes’ reading and planning time?
Have you complained to the ACCA that the invigilator stopped the exam early? You should have been given the full three hours plus that 15 minutes. I can’t believe that the exam was stopped by the invigilators early and that, if it was, you didn’t make an official complaint
Are you sure that you’re not wasting your time and that it’s silly to continue to sit a professional exam until you are confident about telling the time? I believe that this is what you need to practice – taking on a half-hour task that you need to try to complete in, say, 25 minutes
Then start that task but make yourself stop after 25 minutes. select something that you would really really like to do for 30 minutes but say to yourself that you must stop after just 20 minutes and, even though your friends are continuing for the full 30 minutes, you have stopped after 20. try that
Another thing to do is select a piece of A4 and a pen. Get a reliable friend to sit next to you. Open a text book or revision kit or newspaper or …. anything with writing on it.
You are going to copy from that source document under timed conditions so you need to instruct your friend to say “Start” and then to say after exactly 1 minute 27 seconds “Stop”
You get yourself ready to start copying and, when you’re ready, get your friend to say “Start”
You write as fast as you can, but staying legible, copying out from that source document.
Then, when your friend says “Stop” you stop
I want you to do that NOW and then come back to me and tell me how much you managed to write in 1 minute 27 seconds.
Ok – do it NOW
May 14, 2016 at 8:46 am #315033guddoji22@yahoo.com is my email address. please help me to pass p7… if you have any easy study material to prepare in short time then do email,please
May 14, 2016 at 8:54 am #315035thankx for the advise. i m gonna do the excercise of 1 miute 27 seconds.and will practice question by deciding time. then will tell you the results. good day
May 14, 2016 at 9:04 am #315038“1st querstion took more time. thoery papers are a big problem for me. same was done in p1. 50 question was a disaster. it took 2 hours of my time in exam. and then i was not able to complete other two questions in just one hour and fifteen minutes” – of course you can’t properly attempt the remaining 50 marks in only 1 hour 15 minutes.
That’s the purpose of the exercise that I’ve set for you.
You READ and PLAN for 50 minutes in the exam. And NO LONGER
Then you start to write and you write ONE sentence for each of the separate points that you planned and than sentence SHALL NOT exceed 3 lines
Then you leave a line and repeat
Then you leave a line and repeat
Then you leave a line and repeat
Then you leave a line and repeat
until you’ve run out of planned points
Ideally you should have planned the same number of points as there are marks in the question. If you haven’t achieved that, and you’re still within your planning time allocation, you need to make yourself think of other things that may just be relevant.
I’ve written two “exam technique” articles on this site – one specifically for P7 and one as a general guide to exam technique. read them
There are, in addition, two articles within P3 (?) technical articles written by two members of the P3 marking team. Read those too
I’m still waiting to hear the results of your 1 minute 27 seconds exercise!
May 16, 2016 at 9:28 am #315295sir where i can find that specific general guide to exam technique for p7? please mention the link in your next comment.
i have done the excercise and itx very useful. thank you sir.. i m doing it again and again by setting stop watch or alaram on my mobile before writting. please give me more excercise suggestions to improve my writing skills.May 16, 2016 at 9:44 am #315301and one more thing, i am going to do final revision of p7 so what should i do,
1) make full revision of notes and short notes of all topics.
2) OR, Do the remaining question from kit as practice,May 16, 2016 at 9:45 am #315303i have done almost 30-35 question in writing… all tht is sufficient for a good practice?
May 16, 2016 at 10:46 am #315310That 1 minute 27 second exercise is to show you that no point / sentence in the exam should take you longer than 1 minute 27 seconds
But clearly you can’t keep checking every 87 seconds to see if you’ve run out of time for that point.
But what it DOES show you is the MAXIMUM length of a sentence in the exam – probably no longer than 3 lines
You shouldn’t be taking valuable time by writing out answers in full!
Your time is better spent PLANNING what you would write. So for a 15 mark part question, spend 7.5 minutes just planning bullet points and then, after 7.5 minutes, check your bullets against the printed solution
Try these:
https://opentuition.com/articles/p7/acca-p7-exam-technique/
ACCA General exam technique
? probably the most important element of technique is ALLOCATE YOUR TIME and then stick to that allocated time
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this applies not just to the questions but equally important is to allocate your time over the separate parts of questions
in addition, you should allocate time to plan properly any “written” answers ie “non- computational”
? RTFQ! Read the full question – carefully!
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read the full question paying careful attention to the verbs used in the requirement – they indicate the form, approach and style being asked for
ensure also that you read and appreciate the importance of that little innocuous word “and” as in “Identify and explain …”
? ATFQ! Answer the full question
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having read the question, in a“written” exam, or even in a “written” question in eg an accounts exam, you will now need to plan an answer
allocate sufficient time to perform this necessary task
the ACCA frequently state that “Yet again, there was a lack of visible evidence of the planning process”
having planned, and hopefully got as many points in your plan as there are marks available, now re-read the question and ask yourself “Have I answered the full question?”
remember, points means marks
the more you write, the more opportunities the marker has to give you credit
write nothing, score nothing ( it‘s hardly rocket science, is it? )
• I remember marking one script for ACCA about 13 years ago and the ONLY thing the student had written on the script was ( and I remember it word for word! ) “2b”
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• write nothing, score nothing ? when tackling an answer, written or computational, THINK BEFORE YOU CROSS ANYTHING
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? if you are 100% certain that what you have written is incorrect then, ok, cross it out
? if you are not 100% certain, then leave it in
? if you thought it was worth putting down in the first place, you never know, the marker may also think that it deserves credit and there‘s no negative marking in the ACCA exams
? that is, you do not lose marks for things which you have written / computed and which are incorrect
? it‘s the markers‘ job to decide what is relevant, sensible, mark-worthy
? in written answers, show your plan clearly at the top of the page in your answer book, head it plan, and rule it off before you start the fully written answer, tick off the points in the plan as you incorporate them into your answer – but do not cross the plan out!
? in computational answers, clearly show your workings in a form which the marker can easily understand
? spread your workings out across the page – not crunched up against the left hand margin
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? start every part of every answer on a new page
? clearly number the answer according to the question number / part number eg for the auditing paper you would head the page “5c” when answering the third part of question five
? ( for the law paper, leave ten or so lines after part a before you start part b. This will give you room for after-thoughts )
? DNA! ? add up? There are two schools of thought about whether you should spend the time adding
up for example your Statements of Financial Position or Cash Flow
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if you do add up and it balances, what have you proved / gained? Nothing! It could still be incorrect and, even if it is correct, you have not improved your score.
furthermore, if it doesn‘t balance, then you may begin to worry and start trying to find why it‘s out of balance – you run the risk of overrunning your time allocation
I personally prefer to add up my computational answers – if the answer doesn‘t balance, I can quantify the difference and then quickly look to see if I can easily see the cause of the difference
if I cannot easily see it, I leave it, and move on
I know of one student who KNEW she could do partnership accounts ( when it was in the syllabus ). Her‘s didn‘t balance – so she went looking for the mistake. After an hour and forty five minutes, she gave up looking and then started the other 75% of the exam. Needless to say – she failed ( the exam equivalent today is F3 )
these were the days before the referral system – if you failed one exam, you failed all four
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by the application of appalling exam technique! Chasing errors! conclusion? It‘s up to you and your own self-discipline
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she retook in the following March and passed all four took the next five in November, eight months later, and passed them and then took the last five exams six months after, in May, and passed them too
? so, how can a student pass 14 professional exams in 14 months, and yet fail F3 ( equivalent ) accounts paper?
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? so, did you work out what DNA was? It means “Do not abbreviate”
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only really applicable in the context of report / memo / letter writing in those situations, the addressee may well not be familiar with “accountant speak” – does
your grand-mother know what an IFRS is? other than in that situation, so everywhere else, abbreviate! are there any marks for writing
Bluebell Group Consolidated Statement of Financial Position as at 30 September, 2010
or do you think that “SoFP” would be sufficient as a heading for the answer? • I do if I use the wrong word, or my English grammar is incorrect, will I lose marks?
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? never say in an exam answer something like “There are four points to consider” because there’s a good chance that you‘ll only remember three or, just as bad, five!
? don‘t use “Firstly” – there‘s a good chance you‘ll forget “Secondly”! ? don‘t use “Finally” – you‘re almost certain to remember another point!
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? don‘t put a bullet point unless you have something to say
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I‘ll illustrate that:
– plum – pear – peach –
unless I can think of pomegranate, I shouldn‘t set up the fourth bullet point If you‘re going to list, list vertically, not horizontally
– plums, pears, peaches, pomegranates, pineapples, prunes, pecans, pine nuts, pista- cchios, papaya, paw-paw
• a marker, faced with a horizontal list, could very easily fail to see exactly how many items are in the list whereas ..
.. with a vertical list it‘s much more difficult to miscount
– plums – pears – peaches – pomegranates
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• eg, “dogs, cats etc” • in my view, it‘s telling the marker that you know there‘s something else, but you cannot
remember it
• why not, instead, say that eg “The expression “Domestic animals” includes, amongst others, dogs and cats””
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? make your answer marker-friendly
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markers have around five weeks to mark around 400 scripts – it may not sound much of a time pressure affair but, believe me, it is
for the five weeks after the exam, the most important person in your life is that marker – and there‘s nothing you can do during that five weeks to impress him / her
so your efforts to impress must come in the exam itself to make it easier for the marker by clear and understandable workings
make sure that, in the excitement and pressure of the exam, your hand-writing remains legible
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if, part way through a computational question you realise that you have made a mistake earlier on in the answer and it affects a number of other figures, make a note AT THE START OF YOUR ANSWER and explain the mistake, quantify the error and explain its effect
otherwise, no messages! during my life as an ACCA marker I came across a number of messages the most memorable ( and believe me, I remember it word for word! ) read as follows:
“Dear Examiner, please do not mark my paper below 10, I beg you. Range of 40. My superiors will realise that I have done no work and my job would be at risk. Please have pity in your heart for me and assuring you of my utmost confidentiality”
the student scored 5 out of 111 marks attempted
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there is one exception to this rule
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? can I guarantee a pass in these exams?
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nothing in this life is guaranteed except death and taxes however, you can dramatically improve your chances of success by sound preparation read through the OpenTuition course notes practice the course examples check out the study text where you feel you need further explanation fill in the blanks in the course notes practice the questions from the revision kit then practice them again and again and …
? allocating time? It’s easy – multiply the number of marks in the question by 1.8 and that’s the number of minutes to be allocated to that question ( does not apply to papers F1, F2 nor F3 for all of which the number of minutes per mark is 1.2 )
? how to calculate your time allocation when your calculator was left at home?
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look at the number of marks for a question – say 6 double it = 12 take off 10% ( 1.2 ) = 10.8 10.8 minutes is the time allocation for a 6 mark question
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? OK, I‘ve gone on endlessly about time allocation and attempting 100 marks worth in the exam, but I want to illustrate the point about why it is really important that you squeeze just one more mark out of the marker!
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imagine that there are 18,000 students doing the same exam as you ( not an unreasonable estimate )
the maximum marks available are 100 and the minimum is zero
that means that there will be 180 students scoring zero, 180 scoring 100 and 180 for each mark between the two extremes
I think that you will agree that that is pure nonsense
so, think “What is the lowest mark that a student could gain if they walk into that exam room with a reasonable expectation of passing?”
will you accept “32”? and the highest? Will you accept “74”? so, we have an effective mark range of 42 marks for 18,000 students that‘s 428 students for every mark between 32 and 74 inclusive no! That‘s clearly nonsense too
surely, the distribution over the range of 32 to 74 will be a normal distribution – yes, ok, there will be some who score less than 32 and some scoring more than 74, but only 1% at each extreme
the distribution may well be skewed with a mean higher or lower than 50%. Clearly, it is
skewed if you consider the paper pass rates!
but I‘m going to take it that the mean mark is 50% with a normal distribution around that mean
your statistics learning will tell you that, within one standard deviation either side of the mean lies 65% of the population, and within 3 standard deviations either side you have around 98% of the population
so, 98% of students lie within the mark range 32 to 74, and 65% lie within the range 43 to 57
that‘s 18,000 x 65% = 11,700 students covered by 14 marks or an average of 836 students per mark
836 students from a population of 18,000 is > 4.6% of the population
if you can score one more mark in each of 10 law questions – just one more valid point – that will overtake 46% of the “opposition”
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and the principle works just as well for the computational papers – just one more working in a consolidation, one more correct figure in a cash flow
but, as always, DO NOT OVERRUN YOUR TIME ALLOCATION
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a number of years ago in the exam for which I was a member of the marking team there were 67% compulsory questions and a choice of 3 from 5 questions at 11 marks each
one of these optional questions in this particular exam session was so HOT that the examiner just had to ask it – and he did!
the student I remember had obviously done a lot of work in the area and knew the subject matter really well
in fact, he wrote six and a half sides for this eleven mark question
by the fifth line on page two, he had scored 9 marks and he gained another at the bottom of page 4
so, a total of ten out of eleven – that‘s 91% but at what cost?
he scored 8 from 27, 8 from 22 and 5 from 18 for the three compulsory questions and only 4 and 2 from the other two optional questions
a grand total of 37% but a magnificent answer to the six page effort for eleven marks
? what‘s the main message coming from all this?
? ALLOCATE YOUR TIME, AND STICK TO THE ALLOCATION
? THE EVENING BEFORE THE EXAM!
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get organised
• put your pens ( black ink ) in a plastic bag by the door of your home
• and your calculator ( even for auditing and law exams! There are often numbers to crunch in both of these subjects )
• and a spare calculator • and batteries for both your calculators • a watch / clock – nothing ornate or one which chimes the hours!
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try to avoid medications and substances to which your body is not accustomed
know where your exam centre is
plan your journey ( road works? traffic jams? other obstacles? )
try not to be dependent on others to get you to the exam centre on time – this is a big day for you – it may be totally inconsequential for them
set your alarm to give yourself plenty of time to wake up and come round – nothing worse than a dozy or late-arriving student
do not be tempted to “work through the night” Fatal! get to bed early and sleeeeeep
? THE DAY OF THE EXAM
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get up early so that you are not panicking about getting to the centre on time and you are wide awake by the time you reach the exam centre
leave your home by the same door that you left your pens, calculators and pick them up as you leave
don’t take study material to the exam centre – if you don’t know the stuff by the morning of the exam, it’s certainly too late
additionally, it’s my experience that such last-minute revision serves more to panic students ( who at last realise just how much they don’t know ) or, worse still, it confuses and jumbles up what they thought they did know
take some time in your bathroom at home to avoid the queues at the exam centre plan to arrive not too early and not too late ideally, no more than say 20 minutes before you are to be let into the exam room if you are too early, take a walk around the block or go for a coffee / tea
ladies, handbags should be left at the front of the exam room
switch off your mobile phones
be prepared to refuse to lend your spare calculator – even to a friend / colleague. What if yours breaks down, and you have lent your spare one? It’s their fault that they haven’t brought their own so why should you take the risk
when you are allowed into the exam room, find your desk and get organised – pens, calculators, watch – set out on the desk, and listen to the invigilator’s instructions
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? DURING THE EXAM
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NEVER GIVE UP! – there’s always a chance that that one more mark will do it for you
don’t be put off by your neighbour who is already on page 2 before you are ready to start writing your first answer – he’s failed to plan his answer which will therefore be rambling, disjointed, unstructured, unprofessional or simply missing the point
if you think you’re going to need a continuation booklet, put your hand up to catch the invigilator’s attention BEFORE you reach the end of the last page
? AFTER THE EXAM
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don’t carry out a post-mortem – it’s too late to do anything about it and the “other” person has probably got it wrong anyway
other exams to do? Go home and revise for the next one
no others to do? Then go out and celebrate
there’s nothing you can do about the one just finished, so be positive
how many times have you thought “I know I’ve failed that exam” yet when the results are announced, you’ve passed comfortably
worse, how many times have you thought “I know for sure that I’ve passed that exam” yet when those results come out, you’ve just scraped a pass or, worse, you’ve failed it
students are NOT ABLE to predict their performance, so don’t try it’s gone, leave it, don’t give it another thought
? and finally, from the OpenTuition team, we all wish you the very best of luck ( though strictly speaking, luck should not be the deciding factor in a pass / fail situation which you are to face! )May 17, 2016 at 1:47 pm #315444nothing in this life is guaranteed except death and taxes = wow i love this line
May 17, 2016 at 2:01 pm #315445Aww… i read carefully all this stuff.it took long time. but believe me i m much impressed. sir thank you so much for this. i wish i had a teacher like you. i wanna see you really. very impressive God bless you always.
May 17, 2016 at 2:02 pm #315446i practiced to write 2 minute excercise. i wrote almost half page in 2 minutes. is it ok.?
May 17, 2016 at 2:03 pm #315447Thanks again. so nice of you
May 17, 2016 at 3:46 pm #315460Guddo – there is NO way that you wrote half a page in two minutes.
In 1 minute 27 seconds you’d be lucky to get beyond the fourth line!
May 18, 2016 at 7:39 am #315549actually i am just practicing by copy pasting. but in exam we have to think before writing. so at that time i wrote half page in 14 to 15 minutes 🙁
May 18, 2016 at 7:42 am #315551how much questions should i practice????? i mean quantity
May 18, 2016 at 7:54 am #315555sir please tell me the difference between:
1) obtaining audit evidence
2) audit procedure.and in audit evidence we should write the purpose of the action or not?
for example. in audit procedure.
Check the cash book bank statement of the ABC company to verify the consideration paid.May 18, 2016 at 7:56 am #315557and what about expecting audit evidence in the file? only document name required?
May 18, 2016 at 12:05 pm #315609sir what is the difference between:
1) obtaining audit evidence
2) audit procedureand is it necessary to write the reason of the action in both (obtaining audit evidence & audit procedure)? like ” Verify the cash book and bank statement to verify the consideration paid”…..
to verify the consideration paid….please tell me… and please tell me the easy way of making audit procedures please
May 18, 2016 at 12:16 pm #315613why p7 flash cards are not available on opentution?????
May 18, 2016 at 2:50 pm #315637You saw how many Andrew practiced (the P7 global prize winner) You should aim for that.
I thought that’s what your post meant when you commented on his interview – “120 questions – o god” I assumed that you had spelt good wrongly and missed one of the “o”s“and what about expecting audit evidence in the file? only document name required?” – what name could you possibly give to the document that is a record created by the auditor of a conversation with the chief executive?
When the question asks you for “What evidence would you expect to find …” it’s looking for comments such as “There should be a copy of the new lease agreement”, “There should be a copy of the instructions given to the independent expert upon whose assessment we shall be seeking to rely as a further source of evidence confirming the reasonableness of the directors’ estimates” (what document name would you give to that?)
“actually i am just practicing by copy pasting” – what bl**dy use is that?
“i practiced to write 2 minute excercise. i wrote almost half page in 2 minutes. is it ok.?” – that is quite plainly a figment of an over-active fertile imagination! Some people would actually call it a lie!
“1) obtaining audit evidence
2) audit procedure”Audit evidence is working papers that you’ll find on an audit file
Audit procedures describes the work necessary to gather the evidence
“and in audit evidence we should write the purpose of the action or not?” – audit evidence is NOT an action so there can be no purpose of the action in respect of audit evidence
“why p7 flash cards are not available on opentution?????” – do you have time to write any?
You apparently have still not done that 1 minute 27 second exercise. Why should I bother to respond to your questions when you clearly won’t follow the advice I give? I don’t mind if you choose to not follow the advice but then I think to myself “Why should I bother giving it to someone who is going to ignore it anyway?”
March 5, 2018 at 5:51 am #440239what did i just read
March 5, 2018 at 6:36 am #440264The extended answer to a student that asked multiple questions and advice on how to tackle p7 questions
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