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  • This topic has 15 replies, 3 voices, and was last updated 9 years ago by MikeLittle.
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  • April 11, 2016 at 4:01 pm #309758
    sabahat
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    hi whts the difference between goodwill and internally generated goodwill
    brand name and internally generated bnrand name
    internally generated intangibles
    m stuck to point internally generated how do these generate internally

    April 11, 2016 at 6:00 pm #309766
    MikeLittle
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    By developing your own goodwill. But you can’t recognise it. It only becomes accountable / recordable / recognisable when it’s bought / sold

    Is that ok or do you need more?

    April 12, 2016 at 2:20 pm #309882
    sabahat
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    give some more examples and thnxxxx a lot

    April 12, 2016 at 2:38 pm #309893
    sabahat
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    m extremelyyy thnkful t0 you my problem is solveddd and one more question
    internally generated intangibles or brand name name should charged to P/L as an expense
    should we charge internally developed goodwill to P/L as expense as it is n0t recognized as intangible asset
    and how do we purchase goodwill i know the treatment it should be recorded at MV but h0w d0 we purchase it? thnxx in advance

    April 12, 2016 at 4:13 pm #309905
    MikeLittle
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    “internally generated intangibles or brand name name should charged to P/L as an expense” – no, how can you charge a brand name to statement of profit or loss if you haven’t recognised it as an asset in the first place?

    When Kit-Kat were developing their brand, any costs involved in bringing the brand name to the attention of the public and any expenses incurred in marketing the product were certainly expensed through statement of profit or loss – is that what you mean?

    “how do we purchase goodwill i know the treatment it should be recorded at MV but h0w d0 we purchase it?” – by buying another company and paying more than your share of the fair valued net assets.

    This is a basic consolidation question!

    April 12, 2016 at 9:52 pm #309934
    sabahat
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    wht is internally generated brand name treatment?

    April 12, 2016 at 9:56 pm #309935
    sabahat
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    oh got it yeah advertisement costs should be charged to p/l

    April 13, 2016 at 7:34 am #309971
    MikeLittle
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    That’s good!

    May 6, 2016 at 10:50 am #313907
    msk29
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    Hello sir!
    How do you deal with this qn below:

    The intangible asset in the trial balance ($14000) represents the R & D of a new product,Citra. The project began on 1/4/20X4 and costs were incurred evenly over 7 months up to 31/10/20X4,when the product was launched.
    Initially the directors of Halpert were unsure whether to proceed, but following successful tests in 20X4, the approval to develop Citra was given on 1/7/20X4. It is anticipated that Citra will last for 5 years.

    Do you take $14000/5= 2800 in P/L and 11200 (14000-2800) in SFP?

    May 6, 2016 at 1:37 pm #313923
    MikeLittle
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    This looks to me like expenditure of $2,000 per month for each of 7 months

    The project was started on 1 April, 2014 and, on 1 July, 2014, the project was determined to be viable so, from that date, project costs should be capitalised

    April through June is 3 months @ $2,000 = $6,000 to be expensed through Statement of Profit or Loss

    July through October is 4 months @ $2,000 + $8,000 should be capitalised and amortised over 5 years from 1 November, 2014

    Clear?

    May 6, 2016 at 4:49 pm #313952
    msk29
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    No it’s not clear.
    Can you explain again please using different technique?

    May 6, 2016 at 8:04 pm #313968
    MikeLittle
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    I’ve looked again at my response and can see no way that you could be confused!

    Maybe if you forget entirely the bit in the question “It is anticipated that Citra will last for 5 years.” – that is totally irrelevant to finding the solution

    Other than that I can only suggest that you be specific about exactly which part of my explanation you are not happy with

    May 7, 2016 at 9:28 am #314013
    msk29
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    Oh. I get it now, you expensed the (2000*3) $6000 because it was a part of research costs and research costs need to be expensed to p/l. Isn’t it?
    Thereafter, from 1/7/20×4 Citra was given the approval to develop. So it should be capitalised as development costs as $10,000.
    And do you take amortisation expenses to p/l? 10000/5=2000?

    May 7, 2016 at 8:43 pm #314055
    MikeLittle
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    “So it should be capitalised as development costs as $10,000” – since when has 4 x $2,000 been equal to $10,000?

    “And do you take amortisation expenses to p/l? 10000/5=2000?” – you do, but beware that the first accounting period may not be a full year

    The ANNUAL charge for amortisation would be $8,000 / 5 years = $1,600

    IF the year end is 31 December, then the first amortisation expense for the year ended 31 December, 2014 would be for only 2 months so 2 / 12 x $1,600 = $2,667

    After that it would be $1,600 per annum until fully amortised

    OK?

    May 8, 2016 at 7:43 am #314077
    msk29
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    Ok. Thank you sir.

    May 8, 2016 at 8:44 am #314096
    MikeLittle
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    You’re welcome

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