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Depreciation

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  • This topic has 8 replies, 3 voices, and was last updated 7 years ago by MikeLittle.
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  • February 24, 2016 at 12:32 pm #301833
    luckey
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    Q. Engines (2 at $9 million each) – replaced 1 April 2005
    No residual values are attributed to any of the component parts.
    $18m 36,000 flying hours
    At 1 April 2008 the aircraft log showed it had flown 10,800 hours since 1 April 2005. In theyear ended 31 March 2009, the aircraft flew for 1,200 hours for the six months to
    30 September 2008 and a further 1,000 hours in the six months to 31 March 2009.On 1 October 2008 the aircraft suffered a ‘bird strike’ accident which damaged one of the
    engines beyond repair. This was replaced by a new engine with a life of 36,000 hours at costof $10.8 million. The other engine was also damaged, but was repaired at a cost of
    $3 million; however, its remaining estimated life was shortened to 15,000 hours. Calculate the charges to the statement of profit or loss in respect of the aircraft for the
    year ended 31 March 2009 and its carrying amount in the statement of financial position
    as at that date.

    Ans: For the damaged engine :
    Till 1oct it has carrying value of 6m .
    After that it was repaired at cost of 3m so the total cost at that time becomes 9m and on the basis of 15000 hr life and travel of 1000 hr.
    Depn = 9m\15000*1000=0.6m
    But m wrong …….what is the depn charge ?

    February 24, 2016 at 12:44 pm #301834
    luckey
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    SoFP :
    Engines Cost 19,800 accumulated depn 3,700 carrying value 16,100

    I dont understand how its 3700 ??

    February 24, 2016 at 2:17 pm #301843
    MikeLittle
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    No, me neither. I get to $4,320 depreciation

    Depreciation on engine 1 to 1 October, 2008 is $3,000,000 and carrying value is therefore $6,000,000 before the $3,000,000 repair giving a revised carrying value of $9,000,000

    Engine 2 is scrapped on 1 October, 2008 – nil residual value

    Engine 3 (replacing engine 2) bought for $10,800,000 with a 15,000 hours life

    6 months 1,000 hours to 31 March, 2009 ($9,000,000 + $10,800,000) / 15,000 x 1,000 = $1,320,000

    Add that to the engine 1 $3,000,000 depreciation brought forward as at 1 October, 2008 and we arrive at $4,320,000

    IF (and it’s a BIG IF) I have misinterpreted the line “No residual values are attributed to any of the component parts.” and there is in fact an expected useful life of 36,000 hours for engine 3 (because, for example, it can be moved to another plane when the aircraft has flown 15,000 more hours and engine 1 packs up) then depreciation for engine 3 will be $10,800,000 / 36,000 x 1,000 = $300,000 instead of the $720,000 used in the earlier calculation

    That will bring aggregate depreciation down by $420,000 for the 6 months and gives accumulated depreciation to carry forward of $3,900,000

    Where’s the question from?

    February 25, 2016 at 2:35 am #301927
    luckey
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    its a june 2009 question.I would like to put up whole question to u as previously i had extracted a portion of it only.

    Flightline is an airline which treats its aircraft as complex non-current assets. The cost andother details of one of its aircraft are: $000 Estimated life
    Exterior structure – purchase date 1 April 1995 120,000 20 years
    Interior cabin fittings – replaced 1 April 2005 25,000 5 years
    Engines (2 at $9 million each) – replaced 1 April 2005
    No residual values are attributed to any of the
    component parts.
    18,000 36,000 flying hours
    At 1 April 2008 the aircraft log showed it had flown 10,800 hours since 1 April 2005. In theyear ended 31 March 2009, the aircraft flew for 1,200 hours for the six months to
    30 September 2008 and a further 1,000 hours in the six months to 31 March 2009.
    On 1 October 2008 the aircraft suffered a ‘bird strike’ accident which damaged one of the
    engines beyond repair. This was replaced by a new engine with a life of 36,000 hours at costof $10.8 million. The other engine was also damaged, but was repaired at a cost of
    $3 million; however, its remaining estimated life was shortened to 15,000 hours. The
    accident also caused cosmetic damage to the exterior of the aircraft which required
    repainting at a cost of $2 million. As the aircraft was out of service for some weeks due to
    the accident, Flightline took the opportunity to upgrade its cabin facilities at a cost of
    $4.5 million. This did not increase the estimated remaining life of the cabin fittings, but the improved facilities enabled Flightline to substantially increase the air fares on this aircraft
    Required:
    Calculate the charges to the statement of profit or loss in respect of the aircraft for the
    year ended 31 March 2009 and its carrying amount in the statement of financial position
    as at that date. Note: The post accident changes are deemed effective from 1 October
    2008

    February 25, 2016 at 2:44 am #301928
    luckey
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    Statement of profit and loss :

    Depreciation (w (i)) 13,800
    Loss on write off of engine (w (iii)) 6,000
    Repairs – engine 3,000
    – Exterior painting 2,000

    Statement of financial position as at 31 March 2009
    Non-current asset – Aircraft
    Cost Accumulateddepreciation Carryingamount
    $000 $000 $000
    Exterior (w (i)) 120,000 84,000 36,000
    Cabin fittings (w (ii)) 29,500 21,500 8,000
    Engines (w (iii)) 19,800 3,700 16,100
    –––––– –––––– ––––––
    169,300 109,200 60,100

    For engine answer is presented as :
    Engines – before the accident the engines (in combination) were being depreciated at a rate of $500 per flying hour. At the date of the accident each engine had a
    carrying amount of $6 million ((12,600 – 600)/2). This represents the loss on disposal
    of the written off engine. The repaired engine’s remaining life was reduced to
    15,000 hours. Thus future depreciation on the repaired engine will be $400 per flying
    hour, resulting in a depreciation charge of $400,000 for the six months to 31 March
    2009. The new engine with a cost of $10.8 million and a life of 36,000 hours will be
    depreciated by $300 per flying hour, resulting in a depreciation charge of $300,000
    for the six months to 31 March 2009. Summarising both engines:
    Cost Accumulateddepreciation Carrying amount
    $000 $000 $000
    Old engine 9,000 3,400 5,600
    New engine 10,800 300 10,500
    –––––––– ––––––– ––––––––
    19,800 3,700 16,100

    And my problem is i couldnt get 3700 as depreciation ?

    February 25, 2016 at 7:46 am #301962
    MikeLittle
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    It’s there for you!

    There’s $400,000 for the second 6 months on engine 1, $300,000 for the second 6 months on engine 3, and $3,000,000 brought forward on engine 1

    And there’s your $3,700,000

    But I don’t see why the repair has not been capitalised 🙁 The repair appears to satisfy the criteria for capitalisation

    January 8, 2018 at 1:41 pm #427713
    nurainatasha
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    Hi Mike! I finally understand the question that I previously asked regarding the Delta but I can’t reply to that topic. So here I am. Thank you for the answer

    However, now I’m stucked with Flightline Qs. The problem is with the engine. Can I calculate both the engines separately ? I look at the suggestion answer but I cannot relate the depreciation part of the engine.

    I assume that the flying hours is divided by the two engines

    1. For the previous year
    * (10800/2) = 5400 hours

    Engine 1= $9 000 000 – ( $500/flying hour x 5400 hour)
    = $6 300 000

    Engine 2 = $9 000 000 – ( $500/flying hour x 5400 hour)
    = $6 300 000

    This give the same carrying amount as the suggested answer which is $12 600 000

    2. For the six months of 1/4/2008 to 30/9/2008

    * (1200 / 2 ) = 600 hours

    Carrying value Engine 1 = $6 300 000 – ($500/flying hour x 600 hour)
    = $6 000 000

    Carrying value Engine 2 = $6 300 000 – ($500/flying hour x 600 hour)
    = $6 000 000

    3. Until this part, I still understand, but after the accident, I lost because the answer is not the same as suggested.

    From 1/10/2013 to 31/3/2009

    * (1000/2) = 500 flying hours

    Engine 1 ( Replaced)
    = $10 800 000 – ( $300/flying hour x 500 )
    = $ 10 650 000

    Engine 2 ( Repair, useful live shortened to 15000 hour)
    = $6 000 000 – ( $500/flying hour x 500)
    =$ 5 750 000

    I believe the mistake is because i divided it by two. But why we can get the answer if we divided the flying hour between both of the engine before the accident but not after the accident ?

    The answer took the full 1000 hours for one engine, which I think will is 2000 hours for two machine. Really hope u understand this question. Thnk youu so much.

    January 8, 2018 at 2:34 pm #427731
    MikeLittle
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    When there are two engines on one plane, they are both working

    Imagine having a 4 engined plane with estimated flying hours of 40,000

    Does that mean that each engine will be being used for only 10,000 hours (40,000/4)?

    Does that answer it?

    January 12, 2018 at 9:32 am #428636
    MikeLittle
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    4 days and no response so I’m closing the thread

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