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irrecovable debts and allowances

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  • This topic has 8 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 9 years ago by John Moffat.
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  • December 9, 2015 at 5:39 pm #289806
    otikosi
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    Irrecoverable debts are $5,000. Trade receivables at the year end are $120,000. If an allowance for
    receivables of 5% is required, what is the entry for irrecoverable debts and allowance for receivables in
    the income statement?
    A $5,000
    B $11,000
    C $6,000
    D $10,750

    stated correct answer: B $5,000 + (5% * 120,000) = $11,000

    I think correct answer is 5000+((120000-5000)*5%)= 10750

    Can you help me?

    December 9, 2015 at 5:47 pm #289813
    John Moffat
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    I don’t know where you found this question, but if you have copied it correctly then it is a very poor question!

    If the question said that the irrecoverable debts had already been written off during the year, then the answer is correct (the balance on receivables will be after having removed the debt and so the allowance would be 5% x $120,000).

    On the other hand, if the question said that the irrecoverable debts were discovered at the year end, then your answer would be correct.

    The exact wording can make an enormous difference (and also both answers assume that there was no allowance existing at the start of the year – the expense is the cost of changing the allowance – and so certainly in the actual exam you would be told this!)

    December 9, 2015 at 6:00 pm #289826
    otikosi
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    I found it in BPP F3 – 2013-2014 , end of chapter 12 Irrecovable debts and Allowances, round up quick quiz.

    December 9, 2015 at 6:02 pm #289829
    otikosi
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    At 1 January 20X4, Tartar Co had total receivables of $380,000. A specific allowance of $20,000 had
    been made for a business customer, Drab. The general allowance for receivables was 2.5%. During the
    year, Drab went out of business owing Tartar Co $28,000, none of which is expected to be recovered.
    At 31 December 20X4, Tatar had total receivables of $420,000. There were no specific allowances but
    the general allowance for receivables was increased to 3%.
    What is the charge in the income statement for the year to 31 December for the allowance for
    receivables and irrecoverable debts?
    A $16,400
    B $31,600
    C $44,400
    D $11,600

    stated correct answer :
    D
    $
    Specific allowance for receivables at 1 January 20,000
    General allowance: 2.5% of (380,000 – 20,000) 9,000
    29,000
    General allowance at 31 December: 3% of
    420,000
    12,600
    Reduction in allowance for receivables (16,400)
    Irrecoverable debt written off 28,000
    Combined expense in income statement 11,600

    also I dont think it’s correct

    December 9, 2015 at 6:07 pm #289832
    John Moffat
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    I only have the current edition of the BPP Revision Kit, and so I cannot help you on your first question.

    With regard to your second question, the answer is correct.
    Drab went out of business during the year and so it will have been written off during the year.

    Why are you using the BPP Study Text? Our lectures are a complete course covering everything you need to be able to pass Paper F3 well. The only extra book you need is the Revision Kit, because that contains lots of questions to practice, and practice is vital 🙂

    December 9, 2015 at 6:08 pm #289834
    otikosi
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    Oh I understand, if it’s occurred during the year we must deduct during the and not in the end.

    December 9, 2015 at 6:10 pm #289837
    John Moffat
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    Correct 🙂

    December 9, 2015 at 6:13 pm #289841
    otikosi
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    thank you tutor.

    I studied this and previous books from your lectures and I will continue it.
    But for practice I am looking through other books, also using BPP revision book. the last question is from that book.

    thank you for everything.

    p.s. hope they will not make such silly misleading questions tomorrow.

    December 9, 2015 at 7:32 pm #289906
    John Moffat
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    I am sure they will not 🙂

    I hope all goes well tomorrow.

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