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Consolidation treatment of provision for investment in subsidiary and associate

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  • September 26, 2015 at 12:27 pm #273630
    Binh
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    Dear Mr Mike,

    In my country, the accounting rule requires that investment in subsidiary and associate if it is accounted in cost of purchase then should be subject to provision of possible reduction in value. The formula is: accumulative provision = (total value of share capital – value of total equity) x % of controlling interest. My question is how we treat such provision in subsidiary and in associate (which is already showed in separate FS) in consolidated FS?

    An example for above case:
    PARENT (P):
    +Cost of investment in S(sub): $40 for $30/$60 share capital.
    @ year end, book value of equity = 50 (due to accumulative loss = 10). Provision recorded on balance sheet of P = (60 – 50)x 30/60 = 5. Assume that additional financial expense in this year = 3 (recorded $2 in previous years).
    + Cost of investment in A(associate): $ 200 for $100/$400 share capital
    @ year end, book value of equity = 360 (due to accumulative loss = 40). Provision
    on BS of P = (400-360) x 100/400 = $10. Additional financial expense on PL = $8 ($2 recorded in previous years).

    Thank you!

    September 26, 2015 at 9:15 pm #273668
    MikeLittle
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    We do make adjustments for impairment in the consolidated financial statements but I’ve never seen an exam question where the value of the investments in subsidiary or associate was asked for.

    So don’t worry about it 🙂

    September 27, 2015 at 8:24 am #273741
    Binh
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    Tks Mike!

    It is very sad that I have not joined P2 lectures or class yet (I am still in business trip so don’t even have time to self-study). The above case is actual thing I am doing, not really related to P2 syllabus. So I will be very appreciate if you instruct me the correct treatment!

    September 27, 2015 at 1:27 pm #273768
    MikeLittle
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    There doesn’t appear to be a universally acceptable treatment!

    I put into google “IFRS interpretations committee September 2012”

    The second availableitem was an archive of IFRS meetings

    Click on September 2012 and go to agenda item 12

    That may (or may not) help you.

    There MAY be subsequent amendment since 2012 – you’ll need to check

    September 28, 2015 at 8:49 am #273940
    Binh
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    Ok, tks Mike, I will try above link!

    Anyway, I have a small question: we have sub-subsidiaries, so will we have sub-associates (associate of a subsidiary) or associates created from consolidation (for example: parent has 10% share capital in A and through a subsidiary it has more 11%, total is 21%, so could we consider A as an associates?).

    September 28, 2015 at 9:22 am #273948
    MikeLittle
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    Yes and yes.

    There has been at least one exam question where the subsidiary held 40% of the shares in another entity that was then treated as an associate

    The second scenario has not, in my memory, ever been examined. However, I see no reason why it couldn’t be

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