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Accruals and prepayments

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  • This topic has 21 replies, 5 voices, and was last updated 10 years ago by John Moffat.
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  • April 17, 2015 at 3:01 am #241563
    Hyeon Jun
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    Hello.

    I don’t understand the question 3 in chapter 4 from the lecture notes.

    Q.3
    The total received in the year ended 30 April 2008 was $1,154,880.
    30 Apr 07 30 Apr 08
    Rent received in advance 68880 74880
    Rent in arrears 50880 44160

    I know the answer, but want to know why and how to solve it.

    Thank you.

    April 17, 2015 at 9:18 am #241596
    John Moffat
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    Of the 1154880 cash received during the year, 50880 was rent that was owing to us at the end of last year (and so is not this years income and needs removing). At the end of this year we are still owed 44160, so it is not included in the cash but is this years income and so needs to be added.

    At the end of last year we had received 68880 in advance. So the cash was received last year (and is therefore not part of this years total) but it is this years income and so needs adding.
    At the end of this year we have received 74880 in advance. So this is included in the cash received but it is not this years income – it is next years income. So it needs removing.

    So….the income for this year is 1154880 – 50880 + 44160 + 68880 – 74880

    May 2, 2015 at 10:56 am #243628
    hemraj123
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    Could you please explain me briefly how to solve this question?

    At 1 September, the motor expense account showed 4 months insurance prepaid of $80 and petrol accrued of $95. During September, the outstanding petrol bill is paid, plus further bills of $245. at 30 September there is a further outstanding bill of $120.

    What amount is to be shown in income statement for motor expenses in September?

    May 2, 2015 at 2:02 pm #243653
    hemraj123
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    I did see your calculation which were as follows:-

    The cash paid during September was 95+245. However 95 was owing from last month and so only 245 relates to this month.
    At the start of September they had prepaid 80 insurance. At the end of September they will only have prepaid 3 months – 1 month insurance was ‘used’ in September and for 1 month it is 80/4 = 20.

    So the total expense is 245 + 20 = 265

    My question is that what happens to $120 which are outstanding in this period?

    May 2, 2015 at 5:21 pm #243673
    John Moffat
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    Ooops – my mistake 🙁

    If there is a further bill outstanding then that was also an expense for this month and that needs adding on to the figure I wrote before.

    May 2, 2015 at 6:01 pm #243681
    hemraj123
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    Thanks a lot Sir
    You have really helped me from the day I joined your community.

    May 3, 2015 at 9:37 am #243744
    John Moffat
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    You are welcome 🙂

    May 12, 2015 at 1:01 pm #245491
    Usman
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    Hello Sir , can u please explain that what is under accrued??? lets say for example , at year end 2003 tony had accrued $240 in respect of light and heat expense for the quarter ending 2003 31 Dec 2003. in january 2004 he discovered that he had under accrued by $10.

    so for the above question is it gona be 240+10=250 on credit side of (light and heat expense T a/c) or 250 on debit side and 240 on credit side?????

    May 12, 2015 at 3:38 pm #245515
    John Moffat
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    You must watch the free lecture – I cannot type out the whole lecture here and I specifically deal with this point in the lecture!!

    (We do not credit with 10. We enter exactly as normal and the problem automatically gets corrected in this years expense.)

    May 12, 2015 at 4:30 pm #245534
    Usman
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    thx sir
    i will watch the lecture now .

    May 12, 2015 at 7:08 pm #245554
    John Moffat
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    Great 🙂

    (But do ask again if you are still not clear after watching)

    May 12, 2015 at 8:55 pm #245582
    Usman
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    Ya sure .. Thanks … Mr Moffat You are doing a great job. Hat’s off to you sir….

    May 13, 2015 at 6:31 am #245622
    John Moffat
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    Thanks 🙂

    May 17, 2015 at 8:05 am #246486
    zohaib03
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    Hello sir. Can you please help me with this question.

    A company’s telephone bill consists of two elements. One is quarterly rental charge, payable in advance; the other is quarterly charge for calls made, payable in arrears. At 1 april 2009, the previous bill dated 1 march had included line rental of $90. Estimated call charges during march 2009 were $80.

    During the following 12 months, bills totalling $2,145 were received on 1 june, 1 september, 1 december 20X9 and 1 march 20Y0, each containing rental of $90 as well call charges. Estimated call charges for march 20Y0 were $120.

    What is the amount to be charged to the statement of profit or loss for the year ended 31 march 20Y0?
    A. $2,185
    B. $2,205
    C. $2,155
    D. $2,215

    May 17, 2015 at 8:07 am #246487
    zohaib03
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    the previous bill dated 1 march 2009.

    May 17, 2015 at 8:20 am #246488
    zohaib03
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    Joanna has prepared her draft accounts for the year ended 30 april 2008, and needs to adjust them for the following items:
    1) Rent od $10,500 was paid and recorded on 2 january 2007 for the period 1 january to 31 december 2007. The landlord had advised that the annual rent for 2008 will be $12,000 although it has not been invoiced or paid yet.

    2) Property and contents insurance is paid annually on 1 march. Joanna paid and recorded $6,000 on 1 march 2008 for the year from 1 march 2008 to 28 february 2009.

    What should the net effect on profit be in the draft accounts for the year ended 30 april 2008 of adjusting for the above items?

    A. $1,000 decrease
    B. $1.500 increase
    C. $1,000 increase
    D. $1,500 decrease

    May 17, 2015 at 9:45 am #246517
    John Moffat
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    Zohaib: I am sorry, but as I have told you before, I cannot spend my day simply typing out complete answers to questions that you must already have the answers to (in the same book in which you found the questions).

    You must say what problem you are having with the answers and then I will do my best to help you.

    May 19, 2015 at 4:04 am #247042
    zohaib03
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    I’m sorry sir. Actually it’s my first time asking you any question. But it won’t happen in the future.
    I’m confused about why did he use the value $12000 instead of using $10,000? And how should i deal with the situation in (1).
    Number (2) is understandable.

    May 19, 2015 at 4:10 am #247043
    zohaib03
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    And in the other question i couldn’t understand what values should i treat as ‘payable in advance’ and what values to treat as ‘payable in arrears’ ? And how to calculate my prepayments and my accruals ?

    May 19, 2015 at 7:29 am #247060
    John Moffat
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    In the Joanna question, we need the rent expense for the period 1 May 2007 to 30 April 2008.

    From 1 May 2007 to 31 December 2007 is 8 months and is part of the payment of $10,500. So the rent expense for the 8 months is 8/12 x 10,500 = 7,000.
    From 1 January 2008 to 30 April 2008 is 4 months and is part of the amount we are going to be charged of $12,000. So the rent expense for these 4 months is 4/12 x 12,000 = 4,000.

    So the total expense for our year is 11,000.

    (Are you sure the question says that the first payment mentioned was paid and recorded on 2 January 2007 and not 2 January 2008? If you have typed the right date, then the adjustment is the whole 11,000. If it was 2 January 2008, then the adjustment is just the difference of 500 (11,000 – 10,500). If you have typed the correct date, then I think it must be a typing error in the question you have.

    You really should watch the free lectures on accruals and prepayments.

    (Sorry telling you that I had told you before – there must be more than one person using the name “zohaib” 🙂 )

    May 20, 2015 at 10:11 am #247366
    zohaib03
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    Yes sir, the question says that the rent was paid and recorded on 2 january 2007.
    And sir it was me again. Actually i asked you 3 questions at a time. I’m sorry again. =)

    May 20, 2015 at 4:27 pm #247416
    John Moffat
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    In that case I think it is a typing error in the book that you are using 🙂

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