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Jupiter co (12/08)

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  • This topic has 18 replies, 5 voices, and was last updated 7 years ago by John Moffat.
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  • April 15, 2015 at 10:11 am #241369
    student07
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    Sir could you please explain me how the market value of debt is calculated.In solution it says 5.6/1.0465 +5.6/1.0456square and so on for four year then it comes 103.40. Then total value is calculated as 800×103.4%=827.2.
    Is the current borrowing of 800 is not straight away the mv of debt. And for calculating this 103.4% is there any other different way. Thanks

    April 15, 2015 at 4:15 pm #241399
    John Moffat
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    The market value of debt is always the present value of the future receipts (interest receipts and the redemption), discounted at the investors required rate of the return.

    On a nominal value of $100, the interest is $5.60 a year. Dividing by 1.0465 is normal discounting at 4.65%.

    800 is the nominal value of the debt borrowing. So the market value will be 800 x 103.4/100

    There is no other way of doing it.

    The free lecture on the valuation of securities will help you.

    April 15, 2015 at 6:00 pm #241421
    student07
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    Thank you sir ,will go through lecture again.

    April 15, 2015 at 6:28 pm #241431
    student07
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    Sorry to trouble again,under which heading is this lecture. And wanted to thank you for your lecture on swap,you have made things really easy. Thank you sir.

    April 16, 2015 at 7:17 am #241470
    John Moffat
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    Sorry – there is not a separate lecture (because it is revision of Paper F9).

    Best it to watch the Paper F9 lecture on the valuation of securities.

    November 19, 2015 at 9:30 am #283876
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    If the bond is being discounted at ytm which is actually before tax, then to convert it into kd we have to make ytm after tax i.e kd=ytm (1_tax) . I dont get y in wacc calculation where kd after tax is taken always, he has rather taken ytm?? Thanksss a lot

    November 19, 2015 at 10:50 am #283903
    John Moffat
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    By ytm you mean the return to investors and it is the return to investors that determines the market value of debt.

    The cost of debt is after tax but it only Kd(1-t) if the debt it irredeemable.
    Usually in the exam the debt is irredeemable and therefore you need to calculate the IRR of the after tax flows.

    I do suggest that you watch the free lectures on calculating the cost of capital.

    November 19, 2015 at 11:07 am #283908
    noorr
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    Ok….thanks for ur speedy replies 😀

    November 19, 2015 at 11:10 am #283913
    John Moffat
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    You are welcome 🙂

    July 27, 2016 at 2:18 pm #329873
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    Hi Sir, i refer to part A answer WACC cost of debt

    why we need to use 4.65% x (1-0.25) as cost of debt? since this current debt is redeemable

    why we are not using IRR method to find out the cost of debt for this redeemable debt : receipt in year 0 $103.396, y1-y4 interest $5.6×75%= $4.2, y4 redemption $100, use 4% & 3% as discounting rate, and find out the IRR 3.16%= cost of debt after tax?

    July 28, 2016 at 7:12 am #329926
    John Moffat
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    The examiner should strictly have calculated the IRR because as you say, it is redeemable.

    However the difference in the eventual WACC is minimal.

    July 28, 2016 at 7:59 am #329939
    cyh
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    Hi Sir, does it mean if i use the IRR method as mentioned above, the IRR=Cost of DEbt=3.16% also correct?

    July 28, 2016 at 9:23 am #329958
    John Moffat
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    Yes – it would actually be more correct 🙂

    July 28, 2016 at 9:39 am #329962
    cyh
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    Thank you so much, Mr John Moffat

    July 28, 2016 at 2:29 pm #330000
    John Moffat
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    You are welcome 🙂

    August 6, 2017 at 3:04 pm #400750
    vaggelis85
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    Hello

    Could you please explain me why in part b the MV of debt is 2400m? In part a of the question we calculated the MV of debt. Why don’t we use the same method for the new bond as well?

    Thank you

    August 6, 2017 at 5:17 pm #400774
    John Moffat
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    Because the question says (on the third line) that they will raise $2,400M from new debt.

    August 6, 2017 at 6:04 pm #400780
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    Hello

    Thank you for your reply. Does this mean that for new bonds the market value will be equal to the book value?

    August 7, 2017 at 6:49 am #400831
    John Moffat
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    If they issue new bonds, then the market value at the date of issue must equal the amount raised (otherwise nobody would have bought them)!!

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